On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:04:36 -0400 (EDT)
Russell McOrmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|  Ethics is a rather personal thing.  You'll want to define
|  membership criteria for a SIG, and totally avoid the phrase
|  'ethics'.


On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Wm. G. McGrath wrote:

> Take for example security. Common designations for hackers are black
> hat, grey hat, white hat.... To my way of thinking it is
> unacceptable for an IT professional to break into anyone else's
> computer for any reason whatsoever. Getting caught doing so,
> advocating, instructing or supporting those who do so could be
> regarded as 'conduct unbecoming a professional'....


  You have proven my point - thanks ;-)

  You have expressed something that you admit was "to my way of thinking"  
which is not something that is agreed upon by everyone.

  I have personally 'hacked' into my own customers networks at times to
demonstrate to them that they have security problems.  I didn't consider
it 'hacking', but other would.

   In one case it was trivial as they had no firewall yet, and I printed
something out on their printer from remote to say "by the way, you need a
firewall".


  In your mind, was I unethical?  If you think I am unethical, does that
not prove my point that "ethics" is a very subjective thing?  If you think
I am not unethical, where do you draw the line between what I did and what
you *personally/subjectively* consider to be 'hacking'?

>       bill
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