This is getting ridiculous. While Ubuntu is better than Vista, in my opinion, Ubuntu is not entirely free, and, consequently, not able to be supported by us because we are part of the FSF and we utilize their servers for our site. WE CAN ONLY SUPPORT 100% FREE BECAUSE WE FALL UNDER THE FSF. I don't know why I'm trying to stress these points anymore.
Jacob > >> That's neither the point or the argument. The point is that this >> discussion is a misuse of the services that FSF has granted us. It goes >> against their ideals, and we are "guests in their house." The >> proprietary >> vs. totally free debate is elsewhere. Use that mailing list for that, >> use >> this one to fight Vista. John has already been very polite in letting >> this >> conversation go on as long as it has, even though he has asked us to get >> back on topic several times. I think that we should respect these facts >> and get back to the point. >> >> Jacob >> >>>> Now, I'm going to wait for the debate to continue, because no matter >>>> how >>>> often we say it, people will have their two cents on the matter. >>> >>> rms refers to this software freedom issue as ethics and moral values, >>> which is all about right and wrong. All of us have an ability to judge >>> issues as morally good or not. However, this does not mean that right >>> and wrong have the same meaning for everyone. On a personal note, I >>> myself disagree with rms on several issues. >>> >>> Take note that concepts such as ethics carry weight too -- some may >>> feel this issue is irrelevant while others feel strongly about it. >>> >>> As a FSF list, we should be talking about software freedom and not >>> about ethics and bashing software/people/companies, etc.. ex. "You are >>> wrong to use non-free software." >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Koh Choon Lin >>> Singapore GNU Group >>> >>> singapore.gnu.googlepages.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Advocate mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Advocate mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate >> > > Actual to some extend, debating about this is also contributing to the > main topic of "advocate badvista". By suggesting what alternative we can > adopt and what we should not. I agree that it is becoming too in detail > about the internal of ubuntu. As long as we can relate all back to the > badvista campaign, i think it is fine =) > > What do you think? > > --- > Lam YongXian > Adolflam.com > > FSF member #5279 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Advocate mailing list > [email protected] > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > _______________________________________________ Advocate mailing list [email protected] http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate
