you are right, just ignore it. consider it OT. Cheers Chris F.
Jacob Maynard wrote: > This is getting ridiculous. While Ubuntu is better than Vista, in my > opinion, Ubuntu is not entirely free, and, consequently, not able to be > supported by us because we are part of the FSF and we utilize their > servers for our site. WE CAN ONLY SUPPORT 100% FREE BECAUSE WE FALL UNDER > THE FSF. I don't know why I'm trying to stress these points anymore. > > Jacob > > >>> That's neither the point or the argument. The point is that this >>> discussion is a misuse of the services that FSF has granted us. It goes >>> against their ideals, and we are "guests in their house." The >>> proprietary >>> vs. totally free debate is elsewhere. Use that mailing list for that, >>> use >>> this one to fight Vista. John has already been very polite in letting >>> this >>> conversation go on as long as it has, even though he has asked us to get >>> back on topic several times. I think that we should respect these facts >>> and get back to the point. >>> >>> Jacob >>> >>> >>>>> Now, I'm going to wait for the debate to continue, because no matter >>>>> how >>>>> often we say it, people will have their two cents on the matter. >>>>> >>>> rms refers to this software freedom issue as ethics and moral values, >>>> which is all about right and wrong. All of us have an ability to judge >>>> issues as morally good or not. However, this does not mean that right >>>> and wrong have the same meaning for everyone. On a personal note, I >>>> myself disagree with rms on several issues. >>>> >>>> Take note that concepts such as ethics carry weight too -- some may >>>> feel this issue is irrelevant while others feel strongly about it. >>>> >>>> As a FSF list, we should be talking about software freedom and not >>>> about ethics and bashing software/people/companies, etc.. ex. "You are >>>> wrong to use non-free software." >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Koh Choon Lin >>>> Singapore GNU Group >>>> >>>> singapore.gnu.googlepages.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Advocate mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Advocate mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate >>> >>> >> Actual to some extend, debating about this is also contributing to the >> main topic of "advocate badvista". By suggesting what alternative we can >> adopt and what we should not. I agree that it is becoming too in detail >> about the internal of ubuntu. As long as we can relate all back to the >> badvista campaign, i think it is fine =) >> >> What do you think? >> >> --- >> Lam YongXian >> Adolflam.com >> >> FSF member #5279 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Advocate mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Advocate mailing list > [email protected] > http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate > _______________________________________________ Advocate mailing list [email protected] http://badvista.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/advocate
