Re: ' (the most recent example -- on this listserv -- being Derek's
examination of
the Goya prints - and then his understanding that they were art)'

Yes, I brushed my teeth this morning without saying to myself: I will
brush my teeth, I am brushing my teeth, I have just brushed my teeth.
That must be another example...

DA

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could we modify Brady's statement to:
>
>  "language is *a* (instead of *the*) process by which we present relationships
>  to ourselves (internally and socially) for examination and understanding." ?
>
>  I realize that in our historical period - language is the most preferred -
>  prestigious - and institutionalized  process.
>
>  But in the past -- and even now -- many things have been examined and
>  understood without words ever being used.
>
>  (the most recent example -- on this listserv -- being Derek's examination of
>  the Goya prints - and then his understanding that they were art)
>
>  Of course, we would need to take "examination" and "understanding" to
>  Cheerkep's hospital -- but I think we can take them home as soon as they are
>  accompanied by some test for success.
>
>  So-- the test for whether John has understood how to build a roof -- is
>  whether his roof gets built and then collapses or not.
>
>  And the test for whether John has understood how to make a painting -- is how
>  much some people like it. (a highly debatable test - but what better tests 
> are
>  there?)
>
>  I would even suggest that when "we invest pictures with referential meaning"
>  -- this can be (or usually is?)  done without words.
>  (despite the attempt of art museums to put voices in our ear when viewing
>  special exhibits)
>
>
>         ****************************************************
>
>
>  "For whatever reason, we humans are unable to use smell, taste, and touch as
>  the components of discourse; we can't even do that with sight, although we 
> can
>  invest pictures with referential "meaning"; language is the process by which
>  we present relationships to ourselves (internally and socially) for
>  examination and understanding."
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Derek Allan
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