Well put by Michael.  Excellent.
WC

--- On Wed, 12/31/08, Michael Brady <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Michael Brady <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Malcolm Gladwell and beliefs)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 11:56 AM
> On Jan 1, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Geoff wrote:
> 
> > I assume we all accept that her existence is of
> another order than  
> > Paul Newman's (former) existence. As that
> different order is  
> > recognized, discord/misunderstanding is reduced. Yes,
> our  
> > perceptions are constructions - but the construction
> Snow White is  
> > of a different order than the construction Paul
> Newman.
> 
> The existence of both might be of different orders, but
> your  
> perceptions or constructions are of the same order.
> That's the point  
> William makes--and is a corollary of Cheerskep's
> constant reminders  
> that meaning resides in the mind, not the word -- namely,
> your  
> thoughts and ideas about a thing or topic are not the thing
> or topic  
> itself, they are proxies, substitutes, representations, or
> as William  
> puts it, "as-if stand-ins," in other words,
> fictions. [Fiction is  
> derived etymologically from Latin, fingere, to form or
> contrive;  
> related words are feign and figment.] So the notion of Snow
> White is a  
> figment of the imagination; the notion of Paul Newman is
> equally a  
> figment, but of memories of previous reports of a supposed
> actual  
> person. Note that for most people who have never met Paul
> Newman, his  
> existence is of the same order as Snow White's, i.e.,
> known to us  
> through reports and stories.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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