Yes, and there additional sources of conventions, I suppose we'd call them 
scientifically objective measurements.  But I certainly agree that pragmatics 
-- 
related to some particular goals, needs, objectives -- underlay each relation 
between verity and convention.  If this is right, then we have to admit that 
verity changes as the pragmatics justifying it change.  Often this involves a 
matter of scope or inclusivity, as in science, when new results flow from new 
objectives, but sometimes it involves a radical shift in how verity is defined. 
On the everyday level, the role of conventions, even when they seem to 
contradict commonsense experiences have enormous influence on verity.  In 
regard 
to art, verity to nature, does not seem to be a dominant issue, unless you 
subscribe to thinkers like E. Gombrich; instead, the mainstream issue seems to 
be affective, channeled mainly in expression or how verity affects emotional 
experience.

WC
  

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> Thus conventions produce verity.  What produces the conventions?
> 

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Pragmatic concerns.  When an idea, perspective or mental construction works to 
explain or describe, conventions are adopted as a way of institutionalizing our 
collective experience.

Thus, reliable experience produces conventions.

Mike Mallory 

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