To Berg:  I don't think Hegel distinguished nature as mainly trees and flowers 
in the countryside and concrete and bricks in the city as not nature or as 
lesser nature.   By nature he means that which is material but not man.  He 
says 
art is man made, a product of the mind and since the mind is able to feel what 
he regarded as spiritual freedom, a sense of what he terms the Absolute, and 
since nature is mute even though we may say it's beautiful it cannot 
participate 
in making itself consciously beautiful.  The conscious mind is essential for 
Hegel.  It enables the fusion of the Absolute with a man-made sensuous form. 
 Hegel thought a perfect fusion of the absolute with sensuous form occurred in 
classic Greek art and then not again.  He argues that the mind has progressed 
beyond the level of the Greek mind and is now capable of far more abstract 
thought than the Greeks had achieved and thus is at a level above what can be 
achieved and expressed in sensuous form.  He says religion and philosophy are 
now so abstract and art cannot embrace that level of abstraction in sensuous 
form.  That's why he writes of the End of Art , where art no longer adequately 
expresses  the most significant ideas of man. This does not mean, really, that 
no more art is possible but that art must become conceptual, pointing beyond 
what can be perfectly embodied in sensuous form. He also claims that art must 
be 
ironic because it offers a conceptual state of mind outside of art, as one that 
can be emotionally detached, to consider contradictory feelings with 
indifference, as with objective judgment.  That kind of detachment is always 
ironic for Hegel.  

If we imagine an absolute that is infinite and full, both rational and not, and 
as a fully free spiritual essence and if we think of man as capable of self 
consciousness as a part of that absolute and if we think of man as attempting 
to 
embody that self-consciousness in some sensuous form (a man-made thing) that 
aims to exemplify man's most significant idea, (the Divine as Absolute) then we 
have a sense of what Hegel argues in his aesthetic.  Maybe.  I do not claim to 
be so immersed in Hegel to accurately summarize his ideas. I am learning.

But one thing is clear if you read Hegel.   Hegel ranks the beauty of nature 
below the beauty of art because art is man made and aims to express a 
consciousness of the spiritual Absolute which for Hegel is freedom.  He says 
nature cannot do that because it is not self conscious and because it has at 
best only utility (to survive) and thus its sensuous form is not aimed at the 
highest and most significant idea. ( I probably screwed that up.)  I'll try to 
find a passage to quote.  But why don't you do that?
wc




----- Original Message ----
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 1, 2012 5:50:28 PM
Subject: Re: Hegel

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:34 PM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Probably the best summary on the internet is the Stanford enclyclopedia of
> art.
>  See topic:  Hegel's Aesthetics
>
> Hegel limits artistic beauty to man-made...as expression of the Absolute
> spiritual freedom  in sensuous form. .  Needless to say, his elegant logic
> and
> lucid ideas are compelling (in translation). a Penguin Classic translation
> by
> Georg Wilheim, 1994, is pretty good and clear.
> wc
>
>
>

Did Hegel prefer urban environments where opportunities to see nature in
all its glory and subtlety are more limited?

Shouldn't an appreciation for beauty stem from an appreciation of nature?

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