Kate, no, you didn't wound at all! I take the lineage stuff with good humor as do all the other folks I know who are involved. I do belong to some Societies, probably most notably The Jamestowne Society, the SAR, and The Society of Mayflower Descendants, where I am on the Illinois Society Board. There I am chair of the education committee which makes grants to appropriate individuals and groups. We support the Chicago portion of the (national) American History Fair Project which recognizes high school students in the Chicago area for research in history. These are mostly inner city minority kids who are learning about citizenship by researching some aspect of culture that is meaningful to them. We also support some advanced research fellows in early American History at the Newberry Library as well as individual teachers in the state who need books, etc., to augment their classroom instructional materials. Our interest is to strengthen a sense of proactive participation in our democracy, reflecting the purpose and content of the original Mayflower Compact of 1620. We estimate that there are probably 20 million living Mayflower descendants -- many with native-American and slave heritage as well as all other ethnic and racial "blood" and we encourage all to document their Mayflower ancestors ...usually following up on family stories about a Mayflower ancestor. The more we know about the efforts and sacrifices, the successes and failures, of our ancestors in America (or anywhere) the more we seriously respect our own roles as active, critically alert citizens in a democracy. The days of DAR and similar lineage society racism, etc. are long gone. Where it may still linger among a few misguided people here and there, it is an embarrassment that pains and offends.
Let's read Hegel and ask questions re his text as we go. I'm going back to the beginning to it read again. wc ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, July 1, 2012 9:47:49 PM Subject: Re: Hegel I am sorry, William, I didn't mean to wound-it must be the heat and the intransigence of paint. I was fortunate enough to have a great aunt who was desperate to join the DAR-before MArian Anderson-on one side, and several second cousins on the other side who were also desperate to join something or other . The result was that both sides of my family were done thoroughly until the middle 1500s when to find out more you really would have had to go to England,and none of these people did. They worked hard with what they had,but I always thought the stuff beyond 1500 was pretty questionable. Yes, the generations do live on,in what they left and what they did .There is a milestone up at the end of the street,with an arrow pointing in the general direction of Dedham and Connecticut,and every so often as I walk by it in the daily round, I remember those people on my father's side who set out on the Connecticut Path to help found New Haven.(It took about ten days to walk there and wasn't as hard as it sounds,much easier than by sea.) Introductory Lectures on Aesthetics, Chapter One, The Range of Aesthetic Defined and Some Objections Against the Philosophy of Art Refuted. I'm reading the Penguin Classic translation on my Kindle Fire by Bernard Bosanquet,1886, newly edited with Introduction by Michael Inwood, 2004. I can find that. Kate Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: William Conger <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 9:44 pm Subject: Re: Hegel Haha. Alas, my great-great grandfathers did not know Hegel but maybe a few of them of them heard about him while studying at Princeton or Harvard in the 1830s. However, most would say Hegel? Hay? Haggle? Huh? Many of those signed their legal documents with a "mark". Yes, it is slightly annoying to some, I suppose, that I happen to have a well documented lineage, one that urges Kate to be a little sardonic in winking conformity to American disdain for any residue of class (while ravishing it in popular culture). But I think it's good to keep alive the memories of our forebears if only to try to understand earlier times and values. I've got 54 generations cited and that's a very long lineage, back to 450CE, but most of that is due to meticulous and accessible royal records... and a few fortuitous marriages in medieval England and France, including Mr. Holy Roman Emperor Charlemaigne, who also signed with a "mark", being illiterate. The hardest part of my search centered on 18-19 C. USA when far more ordinary ancestors, scarcely documented, moved around a lot seeking their opportunities. (I hope my descendants will remember me, too, especially as I edge closer to my physical oblivion, new close enough to whiff it, it sometimes seems). If you don't know your ancestors, back several generations at least, now is the time to begin the adventure of finding them. You will love it. You will discover real people with emotions and fascinating lives and struggles and achnievements. You will feel history come alive in your own family. They will have a place in your heart. You will become a part of a long conversation through the centuries. You will acquire a sense of responsibility to your ancestors, to justify their unfinished work or repair their lost dreams. You will learn forgiveness. My quest began over forty years ago -- possibly because I was orphaned as a young man and knew so little of my family history. Yes, please, let's read Hegel. I suggest we begin where he did: Introductory Lectures on Aesthetics, Chapter One, The Range of Aesthetic Defined and Some Objections Against the Philosophy of Art Refuted. I'm reading the Penguin Classic translation on my Kindle Fire by Bernard Bosanquet,1886, newly edited with Introduction by Michael Inwood, 2004. wc ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, July 1, 2012 7:38:20 PM Subject: Re: Hegel Presumably that was Joe Berg who felt he was kindly saving our time from bothering with Hegel on account Hegel thought Antigone was the beat work of art there was and there was a lesson in it. Or whoever. I would appreciate it if no one tried to save time in this way. If we have none of us read Hegel, except predictably Conger,(whose great great grandfather knew Hegel well) perhaps we could read whatever part is applicable and stop wasting time. Kate Sullivan, -----Original Message----- From: Cheerskep <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:35 pm Subject: Re: Hegel -----Original Message----- From: Cheerskep <[email protected]> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:35 pm Subject: Re: Hegel In a message dated 7/1/12 3:26:32 PM, [email protected] writes: > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/book-reviews/antigonick-b > y-anne-carson/article4363942/ > > The space after 'b' is a mistake. The correct5 url is http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/book-reviews/antigonick-b y-anne-carson/article 4363942/ To save lister's time: Hegel praises ANTIGONE as the best work of art there was. Presumably this was because Hegel saw in it reflections of the Germany of his time, and the need to follow conscience even when it contradicts the King. I personally have never found the "lesson" of any work of art to be part of what gives me an "aesthetic experience".
