Haha.  Alas, my great-great grandfathers did not know Hegel but maybe a few of 
them of them heard about him while studying at Princeton or Harvard in the 
1830s. However, most would say Hegel? Hay? Haggle? Huh? Many of those signed 
their legal documents with a "mark".

 Yes,  it is slightly annoying to some, I suppose, that I happen to have a well 
documented lineage, one that urges Kate to be a little sardonic in winking 
conformity to American disdain for any residue of class (while ravishing it in 
popular culture).  But I think it's good to keep alive the memories of our 
forebears if only to try to understand earlier times and values. I've got 54 
generations cited and that's a very long lineage, back to 450CE, but most of 
that is due to meticulous and accessible royal records... and a few fortuitous 
marriages in medieval England and France, including Mr. Holy Roman Emperor 
Charlemaigne, who also signed with a "mark",  being illiterate.   The hardest 
part of my search centered on 18-19 C. USA when far more ordinary ancestors, 
scarcely documented,  moved around a lot seeking their opportunities. (I hope 
my 
descendants will remember me, too, especially as I edge closer to my physical 
oblivion, new close enough to whiff it, it sometimes seems).

 If you don't know your ancestors, back several generations at least, now is 
the 
time to begin the adventure of finding them.  You will love it.  You will 
discover real people with emotions and fascinating lives and struggles and 
achnievements.  You will feel history come alive in your own family. They will 
have a place in your heart.  You will become a part of a long conversation 
through the centuries. You will acquire a sense of responsibility to your 
ancestors, to justify their unfinished work or repair their lost dreams. You 
will learn forgiveness.   My quest began over forty years ago -- possibly 
because I was orphaned as a young man and knew so little of my family history.  
 
 

Yes, please, let's read Hegel.  I suggest we begin where he did: Introductory 
Lectures on Aesthetics, Chapter One, The Range of Aesthetic Defined and Some 
Objections Against the Philosophy of Art Refuted.  I'm reading the Penguin 
Classic translation on my Kindle Fire by Bernard Bosanquet,1886, newly edited 
with Introduction by Michael Inwood, 2004.

wc


----- Original Message ----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, July 1, 2012 7:38:20 PM
Subject: Re: Hegel

Presumably that was Joe Berg who felt he was kindly saving our time
from bothering with Hegel on account Hegel thought Antigone was the
beat work of art there was  and there was a lesson in it. Or whoever. I
would appreciate it if no one tried to save time in this way. If we
have none of us read Hegel, except predictably Conger,(whose great
great grandfather knew Hegel well) perhaps we could read whatever part
is applicable and stop wasting time.
Kate Sullivan,
-----Original Message-----
From: Cheerskep <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Hegel


-----Original Message-----
From: Cheerskep <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 1, 2012 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Hegel

In a message dated 7/1/12 3:26:32 PM, [email protected] writes:


>
>
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/book-reviews/antigonick-b
> y-anne-carson/article4363942/
>
> The space after 'b' is a mistake. The correct5 url is
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/book-reviews/antigonick-b
y-anne-carson/article
4363942/

To save lister's time: Hegel praises ANTIGONE as the best work of art
there
was. Presumably this was because Hegel saw in it reflections of the
Germany
of his time, and the need to follow conscience even when it contradicts
the
King. I personally have never found the "lesson" of any work of art to
be
part of what gives me an "aesthetic experience".

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