I don't care about vendor vs. vendor (though I think UBNT's claims are 
baseless). My concern is them suing WISPs. I don't care who the vendor is, you 
don't sue your customer for anything other than non-payment. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:39:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 

If the situations were reversed.. would you think Cambium would go after 
Ubiquiti? Or would they just let it slide? 







On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:00 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


THAT is the biggest part of the whole situation. Who is going to trust Ubiquiti 
going forward? 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ben Royer" < operati...@royell.net > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 11:57:52 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 




I could be way wrong, but it seems to me in the court of public opinion this 
will hurt UBNT worse. I mean, any WISP out there, and Disti, using or selling 
Elevate, in my opinion would be pretty upset UBNT is trying to accuse them as 
‘co-conspirators’. This is a very, very slippery slope UBNT has just tried to 
push everyone using Elevate down. 

Thank you, 
Ben Royer, Operations Manager 
Royell Communications, Inc. 





From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 11:52 AM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 

So yeah they are talking about the extra Tx power. They're also claiming 
copyright, DMCA, RICO, CFA, and software licenses violations. 
They also claim mail and wire fraud related to marketing the hacked firmware. 

In a nutshell, they refer to Blip and Winncomm as "co-conspirators" because 
they helped promote and distribute Elevate. 



On 8/10/2018 12:13 PM, Doug Hass wrote: 

<blockquote>

For those of you who want to see it, the complaint from the court case is 
attached. 


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:10 AM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: 

<blockquote>

The thing I'm wondering about here, is what are they suing the WISP for (yes, 
I'm too lazy to go find the documents and read them)? 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
My statement still stands. 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 10:10 AM Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>



Love the armchair discussion, with everyone shooting from the hip, without 
actually reading the article... 


================ 

Ubiquiti sued Illinois-based Cambium on Tuesday, claiming the company is 
selling firmware that changes the existing firmware on Ubiquiti's wireless 
equipment so it exceeds Ubiquiti's transmission thresholds, making it no longer 
compliant with the Federal Communications Commission's rules. 
================= 


No they are not suing for IP !, they cannot !.... 

They are making an interesting case..... 

I can also understand why they might be compelled to make such a case ! ( makes 
a for a very interesting liability responsibility ! ) 



Regards. 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
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