Check out SmartRG also. But it’s tough to beat Ubiquiti with the same cloud 
stuff for free with UNMS.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Nov 16, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've been wondering where to find a TR-69 ACS that isn't awful.  RNControl 
> was at least intuitive to use.  I had assumed it was only for ReadyNet's 
> routers, but I guess I'll have to talk to them about "bringing our own 
> router".
> 
> If I talk to Affinegy will I cry when I find out what it costs? 
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/2018 2:11 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
>> +1 for Consumer connect being expensive.
>> 
>> There is several other TR69 complaint router management vendors, that do 
>> have direct support for the Gigacenter. Affinegy.com is one we looked at, 
>> RNControl(ReadyNet) has the ability to also do a 'bring your own router' to 
>> their TR-069 platform. There is at least one more that had a setup too, I 
>> just can't think of the name..
>> 
>> The thing I like about the Calix, which we had trouble with in other 
>> platforms, is stability. The damn things just WORK. Zyxel, Readynet, 
>> Cambium, all had weird problems where after a week or two they could no 
>> longer be managed and required a reboot. Wifi issues. I never had the same 
>> problems with the Calix at home or at work. I ran it for about a month at 
>> home before we started deploying customers. Readynet/Zyxel/Cambium had some 
>> varying degree of annoyances, if it was either management locking up, or 
>> wifi disappearing - device locking up for no reason? Calix is the only one 
>> that lasted a month without crashing in some way shape or form. I don't 
>> really have the time or want to track down vendors problems. Not to say any 
>> of the vendors have terrible support, but there isn't enough time in the day.
>> 
>> We are also using Calix in our FTTH, but the whole pushing people to use 
>> consumer connect rubbed us the wrong way too. Would rather put in a dumb ONT 
>> and bridge it with a 844E behind it.
>> 
>> Joe 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:55 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> We don't use the calix cloud (consumer connect or whatever its called these 
>>> days)
>>> 
>>> We do run CMS, but I'm not using it with our 844GEs.  It thought this was 
>>> possible, but they are really pushing people to pay them for consumer 
>>> connect.  We do pay for support which includes CMS and they can be pretty 
>>> arbitrary on pricing.  I think they just make it up as they go.  
>>> 
>>> We run a lot of GPON on E7-2s with 844G and GE ONTs.  Easy to allow remote 
>>> access from the E7-2 for management if needed.  (We run 844GEs in active 
>>> ethernet fiber MDUS to start, then move them over to GPON once we get fiber 
>>> to the building or get enough customers in the building to justify an E7-2 
>>> and GPON card in the building).  In Active ethernet mode, they are kind of 
>>> a PITA.  They will randomly lose their WAN VLAN settings and go back to 
>>> their smart activate config.     
>>> 
>>> I have 844Es in the lab,  (shout out to Calix for sending them to me for 
>>> free for my lab), and used one at home as a test router for awhile.  Big 
>>> drawback of the 844E is that their cloud is expensive and there doesn't 
>>> seem to be a free/cheap on-site version like CnMaestro.  Routers do seem to 
>>> work better then CnPilots.  We are still using CnPilots for our coper MDU 
>>> and CSM customer.  I prefer the performance of the 844E, but their cloud is 
>>> too expensive, at least for us (other people have ball parked much better 
>>> pricing then they quote us),  and there doesn't seem to be a free/cheap 
>>> on-site version like CnMaestro.
>>> 
>>> You can run them just like a regular router, except that you have a 
>>> customer side interface and a provider side interface. 
>>>   
>>> You can create a golden config file and load it onto all your routers if 
>>> you have defaults you want.  
>>> 
>>> They do support tr69 so you can roll them into your own management solution 
>>> later if you like but you don't have to use it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:52 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>> For those of you who’ve successfully deployed Calix:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve been wanting to do something with the 844E and 804 since WISPAmerica 
>>>> 2.5 years                     ago, but I feel like I’m at the starting 
>>>> line of a marathon with my feet stuck in buckets full of concrete.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Calix has tons of documentation, and after reading it, I feel about 1% 
>>>> smarter.  I don’t know what the end user or a tech sees as an interface 
>>>> for analytics and troubleshooting and tweaking settings.  I don’t know if 
>>>> you can do a standalone implementation with just the Calix Cloud and some 
>>>> Gigacenters and Mesh units, I get the impression you  need to mess with 
>>>> APIs and tie into all sorts of operations systems that we don’t have.  I’m 
>>>> not even clear on whether we need to set up some kind of on-network TR-069 
>>>> server, or if that’s all a cloud service hosted by Calix.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Is the Calix stuff relatively straightforward to use, on a par with 
>>>> Cambium cnPilot and cnMaestro Cloud?  And maybe Calix documentation is 
>>>> just very confusing or I’m being stupid?  Or are these things pretty 
>>>> complicated to incorporate into a WISP network and get all the advantages 
>>>> of the devices and cloud management?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I’m trying to decide whether to keep struggling and get more help from 
>>>> Calix, or give up.
>>>> 
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