Incidentally I just got exposed to some details about a Verizon 5G build.  They're putting a microcell on a pole every 1500 feet. Every. 1500. Feet. This happens to be a distributed antenna system where they're using RFOG to bring the signal from a central base station to each of these microcells.  Each one is fed by a 12 fiber ribbon, so it's a 288 count cable running down the road from cell to cell.

My mind was blown.  The money they must be dumping into this 5G thing is so great that it's hard to understand why they prefer that over Fiber to the prem.  Service drops are hard?  Or demand for mobile capacity is really that huge?

On 4/24/2019 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Well, imagine that... who would've ever guessed that they aren't going to put up millimeter wave stuff in areas where there's nothing but maybe few cows and a goat actually within range of the towers...

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:58 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    This almost needs a rim shot.

    
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/millimeter-wave-5g-isnt-for-widespread-coverage-verizon-admits/


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    On 4/19/2019 2:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    Read a good report from a writer that tried 5g all over downtown
    Chicago.  No surprises. Sucks just as bad as any other mm wave
    with less than ideal los.  Nothing to worry about.

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    I had a customer today say very authoritatively that 5G will
    give all rural users gigabit speeds and wanted to know when we
    were switching to it (houses on his road are 2 per mile).

    Of course I also had a support call from a customer putting his
    email address into Firefox to get his email, and another who
    couldn’t understand that her domain registrar was asking her to
    create security challenge questions, not to answer them.  My
    customers are not necessarily the sharpest knives in the drawer.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
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    LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was
    deploying WiMax.



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    By not choosing LTE, they lost the change of interop, volume
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    I don't think that had anything to do with it. There wasn't
    anything inherently wrong with WiMax.



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    That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning).


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    On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    > It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of
    birds to
    > have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for
    > significant coverage.

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