That doesn't surprise me... putting a microcell every 1500' is the only way they're going to have any hope of millimeter wave working to phone. I'm assuming they don't have unlimited money to dump into it... which means there isn't going to be a lot of this stuff getting built outside of really densely populated areas.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 9:00 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Incidentally I just got exposed to some details about a Verizon 5G build. > They're putting a microcell on a pole every 1500 feet. > Every. 1500. Feet. This happens to be a distributed antenna system where > they're using RFOG to bring the signal from a central base station to each > of these microcells. Each one is fed by a 12 fiber ribbon, so it's a 288 > count cable running down the road from cell to cell. > > My mind was blown. The money they must be dumping into this 5G thing is > so great that it's hard to understand why they prefer that over Fiber to > the prem. Service drops are hard? Or demand for mobile capacity is really > that huge? > > On 4/24/2019 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Well, imagine that... who would've ever guessed that they aren't going to > put up millimeter wave stuff in areas where there's nothing but maybe few > cows and a goat actually within range of the towers... > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:58 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This almost needs a rim shot. >> >> >> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/millimeter-wave-5g-isnt-for-widespread-coverage-verizon-admits/ >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 4/19/2019 2:36 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> Read a good report from a writer that tried 5g all over downtown >> Chicago. No surprises. Sucks just as bad as any other mm wave with less >> than ideal los. Nothing to worry about. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 19, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> I had a customer today say very authoritatively that 5G will give all >> rural users gigabit speeds and wanted to know when we were switching to it >> (houses on his road are 2 per mile). >> >> >> >> Of course I also had a support call from a customer putting his email >> address into Firefox to get his email, and another who couldn’t understand >> that her domain registrar was asking her to create security challenge >> questions, not to answer them. My customers are not necessarily the >> sharpest knives in the drawer. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2019 4:00 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Real threat >> >> >> >> LTE wasn't a twinkle in anyone's eye when Clearwire was deploying WiMax. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Gino A. Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Friday, April 19, 2019 8:09:47 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Real threat >> >> By not choosing LTE, they lost the change of interop, volume >> manufacturing etc.. >> >> >> >> *Gino* *Villarini * >> Founder/President >> @gvillarini >> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 >> m: >> >> [image: aeronet-logo] <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> >> >> [image: inc500] <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> >> >> [image: fb-logo] <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/> >> >> [image: insta-logo] <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en> >> >> [image: in-logo] >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> >> >> [image: tw-logo] >> <https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor> >> >> >> [image: yt-logo] >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA> >> >> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 >> >> *From: *AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Mike Hammett < >> af...@ics-il.net> >> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Date: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:09 PM >> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Real threat >> >> >> >> I don't think that had anything to do with it. There wasn't anything >> inherently wrong with WiMax. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: >> Image removed by sender.] >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: >> Image removed by sender.] >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: >> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: >> Image removed by sender.] >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: >> Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by >> sender.] >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@af.afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:05:44 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Real threat >> >> That and that they hung their hat on WiMax (in the beginning). >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 4/18/2019 8:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> > It's hard to have a modest plan with LEOs. You need lots of birds to >> > have coverage. Clearwire's failing was a lack of funding for >> > significant coverage. >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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