450b connectorized had SMA stye connectors on top, did not look like a
900mhz SM, looked more like a RocketM5

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:53 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Do you remember what the connectorized 450b looked like?  SMA connectors
> on top like the 900 MHz SM?  N pigtails out bottom like the old one?
> Twistport adapter?
>
>
>
> I realize the pigtails out the bottom were not optimal, but KPP was nice
> enough to build a dish with a place to mount the SM where the pigtails
> dressed just perfect.  Also putting coax connectors on the top is not
> optimal from a drip loop perspective and SMA connectors are a pain to
> waterproof unless you believe in the silicone boots which aren’t conducive
> to third party or custom length coax jumpers.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:39 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
>
>
>
> I asked him right after I saw you post about it.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
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> On Oct 30, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> 
>
> Matt told me at Wispalooza show old form factor SM is coming spring 2020.
> Also at Wispalooza show they had a new SM there that was containerized and
> triband for like $250'ish !!!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:09 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> I thought someone posted that Matt said the old form factor was coming Q1
> 2020.
>
>
>
> Not sure that’s actually different - until I can buy it, it’s pretty much
> in “we are considering it” phase.
>
>
>
> Thing is, 5 GHz 450 SMs took a step back with the 450b, we no longer have
> a connectorized SM or one that we can use with a reflector dish, and many
> of us have encountered performance problems with the integrated antenna in
> the 450b high gain.  And even if we acquire more of the EOL 450 SMs, they
> lack the CPU, triband capability, and xmt power of the 450b.
>
>
>
> Back on topic to the 450i Lite AP, we have some of the old 450 Lite APs.
> If we haven’t already applied a key to make them into Full APs, I generally
> prefer to replace them with a 450i AP.  It’s just so confusing having a mix
> of 24V and 48V powering, Canopy Sync and Cambium Sync, plus the 450i has a
> more capable CPU.  So you could look at that as an advantage of the Lite,
> you can upgrade the HW in the future instead of buying an upgrade key.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:48 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
>
>
>
> To be clear, the 5GHz 450b exists.  The 3GHz high gain is now slated for
> 1st qtr2020.
>
>
>
> I asked CambiumMatt about bringing back the old form factor to use with
> reflectors.  That’s in the “we are considering it” phase.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
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> 312-205-2519 Office
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> 574-220-7826 Cell
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> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
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>
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> On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 450b high gain exists now, I think what is supposed to be coming is a
> connectorized 450b and a 450b in the old form factor that takes a reflector
> dish.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:07 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
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>
> The lite was announced and I believe the 450B high gain sm will be coming
> out.
>
> (actual SM)
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:41 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
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> To make more money comrade.
>
>
>
> *From:* Matt Hoppes
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:55 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit
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>
>
> I mean. I guess? To me that just shouts of going back to license keys.
>
>
>
> If I can buy it for X, but I can upgrade it to Y with a license key - that
> model just never made sense to me. I literally have all he hardware.
> There’s no additional cost. You’re just artificially crippling the unit.
>
>
>
> If the hardware can be sold for the price of the LITE and still make a
> profit, why is the key needed to unlock features?
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Don't know how I missed this at Wispalooza, just seen on streakwave's
> website there is a new 450i AP out with a 20sm limit called LITE and can be
> upgraded to full capacity with a key upgrade.
>
>
> Cambium C050045AL02B
> 5 GHz PMP 450i Connectorized AP FCC LITE
>
> PMP 450i Connectorized Access Point LITE
>
> The LITE version will function exactly as the existing PMP 450i AP but it
> will be restricted to having 20 subscribers connected. A key can be
> purchased to remove this restriction.
>
> https://streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=C050045AL02B&eq=&Tp=&o1=0
>
> I can see myself using alot of these! Glad it has a 20 SM limit instead of
> 10. And there is an integrated 90 degree sector version too.
>
> AWESOME
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