Do you remember what the connectorized 450b looked like?  SMA connectors on top 
like the 900 MHz SM?  N pigtails out bottom like the old one?  Twistport 
adapter?

 

I realize the pigtails out the bottom were not optimal, but KPP was nice enough 
to build a dish with a place to mount the SM where the pigtails dressed just 
perfect.  Also putting coax connectors on the top is not optimal from a drip 
loop perspective and SMA connectors are a pain to waterproof unless you believe 
in the silicone boots which aren’t conducive to third party or custom length 
coax jumpers.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

 

I asked him right after I saw you post about it.

Jeff Broadwick

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On Oct 30, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Matt told me at Wispalooza show old form factor SM is coming spring 2020. Also 
at Wispalooza show they had a new SM there that was containerized and triband 
for like $250'ish !!!

 

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:09 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I thought someone posted that Matt said the old form factor was coming Q1 2020.

 

Not sure that’s actually different - until I can buy it, it’s pretty much in 
“we are considering it” phase.

 

Thing is, 5 GHz 450 SMs took a step back with the 450b, we no longer have a 
connectorized SM or one that we can use with a reflector dish, and many of us 
have encountered performance problems with the integrated antenna in the 450b 
high gain.  And even if we acquire more of the EOL 450 SMs, they lack the CPU, 
triband capability, and xmt power of the 450b.

 

Back on topic to the 450i Lite AP, we have some of the old 450 Lite APs.  If we 
haven’t already applied a key to make them into Full APs, I generally prefer to 
replace them with a 450i AP.  It’s just so confusing having a mix of 24V and 
48V powering, Canopy Sync and Cambium Sync, plus the 450i has a more capable 
CPU.  So you could look at that as an advantage of the Lite, you can upgrade 
the HW in the future instead of buying an upgrade key.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

 

To be clear, the 5GHz 450b exists.  The 3GHz high gain is now slated for 1st 
qtr2020.

 

I asked CambiumMatt about bringing back the old form factor to use with 
reflectors.  That’s in the “we are considering it” phase.

Jeff Broadwick

CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> 

 

On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:



450b high gain exists now, I think what is supposed to be coming is a 
connectorized 450b and a 450b in the old form factor that takes a reflector 
dish.

 

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Of Tyson Burris
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To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

 

The lite was announced and I believe the 450B high gain sm will be coming out. 

(actual SM)

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

 

To make more money comrade.

 

From: Matt Hoppes 

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:55 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

 

I mean. I guess? To me that just shouts of going back to license keys. 

 

If I can buy it for X, but I can upgrade it to Y with a license key - that 
model just never made sense to me. I literally have all he hardware. There’s no 
additional cost. You’re just artificially crippling the unit. 

 

If the hardware can be sold for the price of the LITE and still make a profit, 
why is the key needed to unlock features?


On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Don't know how I missed this at Wispalooza, just seen on streakwave's website 
there is a new 450i AP out with a 20sm limit called LITE and can be upgraded to 
full capacity with a key upgrade.  

 



Cambium C050045AL02B
5 GHz PMP 450i Connectorized AP FCC LITE


PMP 450i Connectorized Access Point LITE

The LITE version will function exactly as the existing PMP 450i AP but it will 
be restricted to having 20 subscribers connected. A key can be purchased to 
remove this restriction.

https://streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=C050045AL02B 
<https://streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=C050045AL02B&eq=&Tp=&o1=0> &eq=&Tp=&o1=0

I can see myself using alot of these! Glad it has a 20 SM limit instead of 10. 
And there is an integrated 90 degree sector version too.

AWESOME

 

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