OK, I just gotta ask:  this CPI of which you speak must not be Customer 
Proprietary Information...

?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam

I just took the commsearch exam through proctoru. Its pretty easy exam, i 
missed one, it takes like ten minutes

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 8:24 PM Eric Nielsen <ericlniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Online is easier. You can study at your leisure, but all exams are proctored.
  Comsearch is still pushing their promotion, which I believe is the cheapest 
option.

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:27:16 -0600
    From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
    To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam
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    Has anyone here taken the CPI training, either online or in person?  Any
    recommendation which is best?  I'm thinking online would be more self-paced,
    but WISPA is offering in person at WISPAmerica.  However that likely means
    staying an extra day.



    Also what format does the exam take?  Is it in person if you take the course
    in person?  Online at a later date?  Retake if you fail?  Does anyone fail?

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:31:46 -0600
    From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
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    The other thing about giant tech companies like Google, Amazon, and SpaceX 
is they can do even giant projects at a loss.  Eventually they may intend to 
make a profit, but meanwhile they have used other peoples money to drive you 
out of business.  There are also startups that lose money like crazy chasing 
market share, like ridesharing and coworking companies, although big funds like 
Softbank seem to be learning not to throw billions at startups without a 
business plan to reach profitability.





    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
    Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:18 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The Future



    I'm still very wary of this. There seems to be a lot of over-promising 
under delivering. In typical Elon fashion, no details but the world runs with 
it and puts out all these data models that make it seem like the second coming 
of christ. Customer CPE is a pizza box ufo <$200 and they are starting in 2020, 
but there's no pictures or details. How is that even possible? We're buying 
450b at a more expensive cost and there ain't no phased antenna with motors in 
it. 



    Then all you read online is the cult following of spaceslax who takes a 
twitter post as gospel and just keeps perpetuating the same tired information. 







    On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

    If the SpaceX Starlink system works at 50% of what it's hyped, it will 
    become the future of rural internet. Urban is still going to be 
    dominated (eventually) by fiber for the foreseeable future. Higher speed 
    wireless will be very, very local.


    bp
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    On 1/19/2020 6:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
    > I don?t know why, but this evening got me thinking about broadband 
delivery over the past 30 years and the future of broadband.
    >
    > First we had nothing, then along came dial-up and that was amazing and 
many companies sprung up offering the service. Giants like AOL and Prodigy.
    >
    > Then DSL and Cable came along as well as wireless and dial-up has all but 
died.
    >
    > Now DSL is basically dead, cable and wireless have gone through several 
iterations and we are seeing a push to fiber.
    >
    > What?s the possibility in the next 10 years cable and wireless will be 
dead technologies with fiber at the fore front?  Possibly.
    >
    > But then..... is fiber really future proof?  We are talking about 
investing hundreds of millions into fiber infrastructure, because it?s ?the 
future?. But is it?
    >
    > So far every technology delivery mechanism to date has become obsolete in 
as little as 6-10 years.

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    Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:34:00 -0600
    From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
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    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [BULK]  Re:  OT Swimming Pools
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    Chuck needs a pool so he can sit by the pool and eat Vienna sausages.

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    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
    Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:14 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com
    Subject: [BULK] Re: [AFMUG] OT Swimming Pools

    On 1/21/20 12:08, Adam Moffett wrote:
    > Is this some kind of wireless or fiber optic pool?  I think it's weird 
    > how we can spend all day on this tangent.


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    Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 23:39:59 +0000
    From: David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam
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    I did it online through Commscope.   It goes pretty fast.   Online sessions 
and test are a big afternoon to a full day.   Keep in mind that it is a 
permanent relationship between who you get certified through and yourself as a 
certified individual.  Not a one time class and you are done with them.   You 
will have an ongoing relationship to keep your CPI credentials.   It isn't too 
big a deal, but some folks might want to work with a company to get CPI 
certified that they already have a relationship with since their ID is tied to 
the training company that certifies them.

    My advice would be to do it online when you can and not waste time at 
WISPAmerica on it.   No reason to wait for WISPAmerica from what I can tell.   
Steve did the same I think.   Steve any thoughts on that?

    Regards,

    David Coudron
    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
    Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:27 PM
    To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: [AFMUG] CPI training & exam

    Has anyone here taken the CPI training, either online or in person?  Any 
recommendation which is best?  I'm thinking online would be more self-paced, 
but WISPA is offering in person at WISPAmerica.  However that likely means 
staying an extra day.

    Also what format does the exam take?  Is it in person if you take the 
course in person?  Online at a later date?  Retake if you fail?  Does anyone 
fail?
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