Maybe this doesn't work the same way, but I've seen big companies deploy
equipment on a band just to hold onto it.  There were minimum service
requirements in those situations, but I'm enough of a cynic that I could
see a big company deploying some minimal amount of equipment just to screw
competition.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:04 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you really care if a competitor is using it, if you aren't using it? It
> seems like it's almost better if a competitor is using it, if you have the
> ability to kick them off when you actually do want to use it.
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 1:48 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't the incentive be to stop competitors from using that part of the
>> band?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 8:25 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The intent here is to stop that. There is no incentive to put up
>>> placeholder equipment.
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:39:30 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHz Spectrum Auction 105
>>>
>>> There have already been cases where a speculator pays people to install
>>> equipment just so they can demonstrate that they're using it while they
>>> find a buyer.  They paid for much more expensive equipment than a 3.5ghz AP.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone squats all the PAL's in a market until Select Spectrum
>>> finds a cell phone company who wants to pay a few mil for them.
>>>
>>> Or is there something in the rules to prevent that?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/23/2020 3:08 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>
>>> If you buy it but don’t operate in it then the spectrum stays as GAA
>>> which anyone can use.
>>>
>>> I don’t see it as being a good speculative investment play given that it
>>> returns to GAA unless you are actually using it.  In a metro area it might
>>> make sense from an investment perspective but in a rural area where there
>>> are a very limited number of potential users trying to hold the spectrum to
>>> maximize value is pretty difficult.   If the investor can’t come to an
>>> agreement with the operator the operator still gets the spectrum as GAA.
>>> The investor then has to go find an operator willing to utilize the
>>> spectrum and incur the buildout costs.
>>>
>>> The idea behind having spectrum revert to GAA is meant to discourage
>>> warehousing and speculation on spectrum.   Hard to say at this point if it
>>> will work out that way, but it’s at least a start at breaking the current
>>> speculative warehousing the goes on in spectrum.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can lease it out, so I doubt it
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jason McKemie <
>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there not going to be a requirement that the companies that buy the
>>>> spectrum actually utilize it?  If not, that's dumb.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Investors are who will be taking the spectrum. HUGE opportunity.
>>>>> Commscope is putting together a guidance
>>>>> I know we will get the credits toward the auction, but I simply dont
>>>>> see us being able to outbid investors.
>>>>> unless your in cook county
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:51 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Friend of mine still has some ESMR licenses he leases that he got
>>>>>> before Nextel sold out to Sprint.  Great residual income.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 1:36 PM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My opinion, any spectrum you own is valuable and will only increase
>>>>>>> in value. It's like beachfront property, they ain't making any more of 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> and communication demands aren't getting any smaller.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I imagine it depends a lot on the location... I can't see it having
>>>>>>>> much value in some areas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 6:41 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How much do you think it is worth to win some of this spectrum?
>>>>>>>>> There are some that are trying to form consortiums.
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