I sold some tower space to an airline data company years ago that used large 
panels like that.

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> On Feb 6, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Excellent.  The blue line goes to the tower with the giant panels being 
> installed.  The yellow line about a mile east goes to the tower that I 
> thought Windstream said was VZW and they could get me fiber at.
>  
> So you’re saying the blue line is a spur built by PEG off the DATA project 
> fiber built with BTOP funding?
>  
> I’m still curious what those big panels in arrays of 3 are.  I know cellular 
> antennas have gotten bigger, but I haven’t seen them that big before.  I keep 
> worrying that LAA will arrive and 5 GHz will become useless.
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:36 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
>  
> You're right in that DATA goes down Duffy. It's just the only significant 
> network that's anywhere near there. Well, ComEd goes down 30 from 23 to Rock 
> Falls, but they're not selling to others.
>  
> Check the attachment. Yellow across the top is DATA. Vertical yellow on the 
> right is Windstream. Blue is PEG\Uniti\BlueBird. Brown is a build that never 
> happened.
> 
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:22:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
> 
> If I’m remembering right, it was on the south tower.  Quite low on the tower, 
> I assume because the tower couldn’t handle the windload otherwise.
>  
> I thought the DATA project BTOP fiber went down Duffy to University then 
> crossed the tracks to Preserve.  Also I seem to remember some telco carrier 
> like Windstream or CenturyLink trying to sell me fiber transport and checking 
> towers that were on their network.  I remember there was one south of 
> Hinckley.  I could be confusing the Kane Rd. tower with the one at Leland Rd. 
>  Which BTW is a weird tower.
>  
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
>  
> Sprint and US Cellular are there. T-Mobile is down on University Rd. I don't 
> have accurate information for AT&T and Verizon for that area. It does look 
> like there are three carriers on those two towers, so one of those two is 
> likely there.
>  
> Anything at that site is going to be using Frontier or DATA for fiber, likely 
> DATA. CenturyLink has some tollway IRUs and then a DeKalb - Dixon - Galesburg 
> route mostly along country roads. Sprint is along UPRR. MCI is in a pipeline 
> that goes underneath my farm from St. Charles to Maple Park to my farm to SW 
> of Shabbona. AT&T goes from Plano to DeKalb to Rockford. Windstream and PEG 
> Bandwidth\Uniti\BlueBird has some laterals off of DATA fiber. That might be 
> it for anything remotely close to there.
>  
> Sprint is on the south tower per a tower map I have of theirs. US Cellular is 
> on the North tower, per ULS. Which tower was it on?
>  
> Looks like my CCIsites account expired. Sometimes the site diagrams say who 
> is on the tower. That might clue in who the other carrier is on that tower.
>  
>  
> 
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:21:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
> 
> US30 and Kane Rd. between Waterman and Shabbona.  Just across the RR tracks.
>  
> Two self supporters at the site.  I think there’s maybe CenturyLink fiber 
> there?  I should be able to figure out from licenses which cellcos are on 
> those towers.
>  
> Would ATS be Atlantic Tower Services?
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:09 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
>  
> Where? I'll go look at it and snap pictures.  ;-)
> 
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:03:02 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas
> 
> I drove by a celltower today where a tower crew (truck said ATS) was 
> installing arrays of these giant panels.  They looked like sheets of drywall, 
> but actually I’d estimate they were around 3x5 feet.  Almost as tall as the 
> tower guy installing one of them.  3 arrays, each consisting of 3 of these 
> panels.  I’ve never seen such big antennas.  They were putting them fairly 
> low on the tower, maybe because of windload?
>  
> I didn’t stop to take photos, I didn’t want them calling the police on me 
> thinking I was a terrorist or something.  But from my description, does 
> anybody have a guess what these were?  This was halfway between 2 small towns 
> in a rural area, next to a state route and a railroad track (not commuter).  
> Could these be some sort of multiband 5G antenna, covering all the low and 
> mid bands?
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