I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, similar features and age as Nate’s.
Even more important than the hyperzoom lens I think is the image stabilization which works quite well, that photo was handheld. It’s a model from something like 2012, so I assume there are cameras available today with larger sensors and better resolution, that’s probably the weak point of this particular camera. It has a 12 MP sensor but I resize all the photos at least 50% or they’re too grainy. I don’t have money for camera equipment these days, but you could probably get a DSLR or mirrorless or compact camera today with a hyperzoom lens and a much better sensor, that would justify digital zoom on top of the optical zoom. The photos of the whole tower were taken with my cellphone. I had to go back with an actual camera to take the zoomed in photos. Also my Canon image stabilization binoculars. Did I mention I love image stabilization? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:02 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Digital zoom is the most trashy feature ever created. The catch is you have to go out of your way to carry a camera whereas the cell phone is likely already in your pocket. On 3/5/2020 12:00 AM, Nate Burke wrote: See, back about 1000 years ago, they made cameras that, believe it or not, that's all they did, they couldn't even play games. But these ancient 'Cameras' had special tunable filters and were able to bend and modify beams of light to make far away objects appear closer, all without the help of any computer aided 'software' I have an SX40 camera that's about 5 years old now, 32x optical Zoom, It can take very clear pictures of equipment on the tower from the ground. On 3/4/2020 10:03 PM, Steve Jones wrote: What the hell kind of camera do you have that can zoom into a label that well? On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 9:39 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: So here are a few photos, anybody recognize these? And why just antennas with no radios? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:18 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas second image on the about us page is what i saw them putting up, maybe 4'x6' antenna On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:09 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: I sold some tower space to an airline data company years ago that used large panels like that. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Excellent. The blue line goes to the tower with the giant panels being installed. The yellow line about a mile east goes to the tower that I thought Windstream said was VZW and they could get me fiber at. So you’re saying the blue line is a spur built by PEG off the DATA project fiber built with BTOP funding? I’m still curious what those big panels in arrays of 3 are. I know cellular antennas have gotten bigger, but I haven’t seen them that big before. I keep worrying that LAA will arrive and 5 GHz will become useless. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas You're right in that DATA goes down Duffy. It's just the only significant network that's anywhere near there. Well, ComEd goes down 30 from 23 to Rock Falls, but they're not selling to others. Check the attachment. Yellow across the top is DATA. Vertical yellow on the right is Windstream. Blue is PEG\Uniti\BlueBird. Brown is a build that never happened. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:22:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas If I’m remembering right, it was on the south tower. Quite low on the tower, I assume because the tower couldn’t handle the windload otherwise. I thought the DATA project BTOP fiber went down Duffy to University then crossed the tracks to Preserve. Also I seem to remember some telco carrier like Windstream or CenturyLink trying to sell me fiber transport and checking towers that were on their network. I remember there was one south of Hinckley. I could be confusing the Kane Rd. tower with the one at Leland Rd. Which BTW is a weird tower. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Sprint and US Cellular are there. T-Mobile is down on University Rd. I don't have accurate information for AT&T and Verizon for that area. It does look like there are three carriers on those two towers, so one of those two is likely there. Anything at that site is going to be using Frontier or DATA for fiber, likely DATA. CenturyLink has some tollway IRUs and then a DeKalb - Dixon - Galesburg route mostly along country roads. Sprint is along UPRR. MCI is in a pipeline that goes underneath my farm from St. Charles to Maple Park to my farm to SW of Shabbona. AT&T goes from Plano to DeKalb to Rockford. Windstream and PEG Bandwidth\Uniti\BlueBird has some laterals off of DATA fiber. That might be it for anything remotely close to there. Sprint is on the south tower per a tower map I have of theirs. US Cellular is on the North tower, per ULS. Which tower was it on? Looks like my CCIsites account expired. Sometimes the site diagrams say who is on the tower. That might clue in who the other carrier is on that tower. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:21:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas US30 and Kane Rd. between Waterman and Shabbona. Just across the RR tracks. Two self supporters at the site. I think there’s maybe CenturyLink fiber there? I should be able to figure out from licenses which cellcos are on those towers. Would ATS be Atlantic Tower Services? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas Where? I'll go look at it and snap pictures. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:03:02 PM Subject: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas I drove by a celltower today where a tower crew (truck said ATS) was installing arrays of these giant panels. They looked like sheets of drywall, but actually I’d estimate they were around 3x5 feet. Almost as tall as the tower guy installing one of them. 3 arrays, each consisting of 3 of these panels. I’ve never seen such big antennas. They were putting them fairly low on the tower, maybe because of windload? I didn’t stop to take photos, I didn’t want them calling the police on me thinking I was a terrorist or something. But from my description, does anybody have a guess what these were? This was halfway between 2 small towns in a rural area, next to a state route and a railroad track (not commuter). 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