Sweet, thanks. I recently bought 12x50 Vortex pair of binoculars that where what I considered expensive, but I'll never not buy good binoculars again. The image quality is amazing. But for the next pair I'll check out something like this.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:28 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > I have the 12x36 IS III and I think that is probably the sweet spot in the > lineup. At 8x you don’t really need IS. I think they make a 15x but > that’s overkill for our purposes (maybe for a birdwatcher) and the price > gets crazy. If you get one, make sure it takes AA batteries and not some > weird camera battery you won’t have around when the batteries need > changing. They still work as regular binoculars when the batteries are > dead, but the IS feature stops working. > > > > The downside is they are expensive, that model is around $700. Expensive > enough that you will be paranoid about losing them and probably won’t loan > them to anybody or equip employees with them. You also might want a better > case than what they come with, which doesn’t provide much protection. > > > > > https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1149461-REG/canon_9526b002_12x36_is_iii_binoculars.html > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Caleb Knauer > *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 8:19 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > "Also my Canon image stabilization binoculars." -- I didn't even know that > was a thing. That sounds amazing. My issue is looking up at tower top > stuff and it's so hard to get a good view due to the wobbles. I may have > to get a pair. > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:41 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, similar features and age as Nate’s. > > > > Even more important than the hyperzoom lens I think is the image > stabilization which works quite well, that photo was handheld. > > > > It’s a model from something like 2012, so I assume there are cameras > available today with larger sensors and better resolution, that’s probably > the weak point of this particular camera. It has a 12 MP sensor but I > resize all the photos at least 50% or they’re too grainy. I don’t have > money for camera equipment these days, but you could probably get a DSLR or > mirrorless or compact camera today with a hyperzoom lens and a much better > sensor, that would justify digital zoom on top of the optical zoom. > > > > The photos of the whole tower were taken with my cellphone. I had to go > back with an actual camera to take the zoomed in photos. Also my Canon > image stabilization binoculars. Did I mention I love image stabilization? > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 8:02 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Digital zoom is the most trashy feature ever created. The catch is you > have to go out of your way to carry a camera whereas the cell phone is > likely already in your pocket. > > > > On 3/5/2020 12:00 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > See, back about 1000 years ago, they made cameras that, believe it or not, > that's all they did, they couldn't even play games. But these ancient > 'Cameras' had special tunable filters and were able to bend and modify > beams of light to make far away objects appear closer, all without the help > of any computer aided 'software' > > I have an SX40 camera that's about 5 years old now, 32x optical Zoom, It > can take very clear pictures of equipment on the tower from the ground. > > On 3/4/2020 10:03 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > What the hell kind of camera do you have that can zoom into a label that > well? > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 9:39 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > So here are a few photos, anybody recognize these? And why just antennas > with no radios? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:18 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > second image on the about us page is what i saw them putting up, maybe > 4'x6' antenna > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:09 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > I sold some tower space to an airline data company years ago that used > large panels like that. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Feb 6, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > > > Excellent. The blue line goes to the tower with the giant panels being > installed. The yellow line about a mile east goes to the tower that I > thought Windstream said was VZW and they could get me fiber at. > > > > So you’re saying the blue line is a spur built by PEG off the DATA project > fiber built with BTOP funding? > > > > I’m still curious what those big panels in arrays of 3 are. I know > cellular antennas have gotten bigger, but I haven’t seen them that big > before. I keep worrying that LAA will arrive and 5 GHz will become useless. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:36 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > You're right in that DATA goes down Duffy. It's just the only significant > network that's anywhere near there. Well, ComEd goes down 30 from 23 to > Rock Falls, but they're not selling to others. > > > > Check the attachment. Yellow across the top is DATA. Vertical yellow on > the right is Windstream. Blue is PEG\Uniti\BlueBird. Brown is a build that > never happened. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:22:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > If I’m remembering right, it was on the south tower. Quite low on the > tower, I assume because the tower couldn’t handle the windload otherwise. > > > > I thought the DATA project BTOP fiber went down Duffy to University then > crossed the tracks to Preserve. Also I seem to remember some telco carrier > like Windstream or CenturyLink trying to sell me fiber transport and > checking towers that were on their network. I remember there was one south > of Hinckley. I could be confusing the Kane Rd. tower with the one at > Leland Rd. Which BTW is a weird tower. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2020 8:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Sprint and US Cellular are there. T-Mobile is down on University Rd. I > don't have accurate information for AT&T and Verizon for that area. It does > look like there are three carriers on those two towers, so one of those two > is likely there. > > > > Anything at that site is going to be using Frontier or DATA for fiber, > likely DATA. CenturyLink has some tollway IRUs and then a DeKalb - Dixon - > Galesburg route mostly along country roads. Sprint is along UPRR. MCI is in > a pipeline that goes underneath my farm from St. Charles to Maple Park to > my farm to SW of Shabbona. AT&T goes from Plano to DeKalb to Rockford. > Windstream and PEG Bandwidth\Uniti\BlueBird has some laterals off of DATA > fiber. That might be it for anything remotely close to there. > > > > Sprint is on the south tower per a tower map I have of theirs. US Cellular > is on the North tower, per ULS. Which tower was it on? > > > > Looks like my CCIsites account expired. Sometimes the site diagrams say > who is on the tower. That might clue in who the other carrier is on that > tower. > > > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:21:48 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > US30 and Kane Rd. between Waterman and Shabbona. Just across the RR > tracks. > > > > Two self supporters at the site. I think there’s maybe CenturyLink fiber > there? I should be able to figure out from licenses which cellcos are on > those towers. > > > > Would ATS be Atlantic Tower Services? > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > > > Where? I'll go look at it and snap pictures. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 5, 2020 7:03:02 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas > > I drove by a celltower today where a tower crew (truck said ATS) was > installing arrays of these giant panels. They looked like sheets of > drywall, but actually I’d estimate they were around 3x5 feet. Almost as > tall as the tower guy installing one of them. 3 arrays, each consisting of > 3 of these panels. I’ve never seen such big antennas. They were putting > them fairly low on the tower, maybe because of windload? > > > > I didn’t stop to take photos, I didn’t want them calling the police on me > thinking I was a terrorist or something. But from my description, does > anybody have a guess what these were? This was halfway between 2 small > towns in a rural area, next to a state route and a railroad track (not > commuter). 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