I'm unfortunate enough to have built a number of my larger 3.65 sites right 
next to county lines.  One of them on the edge of our service territory and 
just over the county line (literally on County Line Rd.) into a fairly populous 
county that we could never afford to bid on.

I think this situation is really bad as far as licenses.  GAA is fine because 
it can cross county lines and is only constrained by aggregate interference 
into PAL protection areas (I'm using CBRS terminology, not sure it applies in 
this case or not).  But I'm a bit fuzzy on PALs and grants from the SAS that 
could cross a county line.  I'm pretty sure you can't do it if you don't have a 
PAL in both counties, and I'm not sure you can do it even then.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 11:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

Our county opening bid is 44k, so assuming you need two clean 20 MHz channels 
it would be $176k for that, assuming no one else bids it. You would have to put 
down 88k to start to bid on it.  Assuming we get small business and rural 
credits that would be lowered by at least 25% ,so  we will lower it 25%.. Now 
we are at $132k and 66k to start.

Assuming they provide a no interest payment plan it would be $550 a month over 
the next 10  years.  So one way to look is it would be 66k plus 550 a month, 
but you had to have the 66k so just assume you could get a loan for it all over 
10 years.   With a 8% interest it would be around $1,600  a month for the next 
10 years.  Then after that, I would have to pay again, as I would have to renew 
my lease. 

It really comes down to "what can you get it for" and what is it good for.  40 
MHz of licensed interference free spectrum in a count y is not horrible, and at 
1600 a month, I would think I could make that work.  I pay more than that for 
bandwidth so.  

Of course when a single block is running for 200k that’s a whole different 
proposition, that I would not think a WISP could make its investment back on.  
There are quite a few assumptions as well, do you have the cash to put down to 
try to win?  If not, then it’s a non-issue for you.  Or can you get a loan for 
that and see if you can capitalize  on getting your licensed channels.    Not 
stating that is good or not, but you have to look at it like that...  



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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.5Ghz FCC Auction 105

Which eliminates some very large percentage of the WISP’s in small markets who 
would be most able to help with the last mile. They’d be laughed out a bank, 
assuming their bank knows what spectrum is at all. 

So their option would be to hope no one bids?

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
> 
> On 2/21/20 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>> look at cook county. crazy. but dont forget there are two bidding 
>> credits we are eligible for
> 
> 
> Which are applied to a winning bid, you still have to wire the FCC the full 
> amount at the beginning to participate.
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