It was a group effort by a big group of entities, WISPA had a lot of influence to make 850Mhz of the 1200mhz available for outdoor PMP.
-Sean On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:14 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > So did WISPA make this happen? Or was it the millions these companies > dropped that made it happen? > > On Apr 23, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Eric Nielsen <ericlniel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The primary influencers behind the rule change are some small, no-name > companies like Google, Facebook, Apple, Broadcom. I doubt you’ve heard of > them. They’re interested in unlicensed 6GHz for the indoor low power > (WiFi6) usage. > > I’m certain they’ve dropped millions lobbying for this. > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:45 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > >> There must be some ulterior motive here there is no way that the FCC out >> of the goodness of their heart provided more unlicensed spectrum to the >> common man/small business. >> >> So the question is who can utilize this spectrum? >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:35 PM Tim Hardy <thardy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> FCC has total authority over these bands. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:29 PM Kurt Fankhauser < >>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> How can the FCC make spectrum available for un-licensed without an act >>>> of Congress? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:30 PM Erich Kaiser < >>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes you are right. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Erich Kaiser >>>>> North Central Tower >>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>>>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> More like 4.9 to 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:35 PM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Two of the UNII bands are heavily used for licensed PTP and I mean >>>>>> heavily, so really if the AFC system works correctly most of the spectrum >>>>>> proposed will likely be unuseable outdoor. I feel like from a >>>>>> reliability >>>>>> standpoint it will be tough to count on a system that uses AFC in >>>>>> general. >>>>>> What about the Antenna being used on these APs are they going to be able >>>>>> to cover the entire band from 5Ghz to 6Ghz efficiently? Just thinking... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Erich Kaiser >>>>>> >>>>>> North Central Tower >>>>>> >>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 815-570-3101 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> from Fred Goldstein via the wispa list: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "There are really two different types of devices approved today. A >>>>>> Standard Power device, allowed +36 dBm EIRP, must communicate daily with >>>>>> an >>>>>> AFC that determines what frequencies are available at its location. It >>>>>> must >>>>>> have geolocation. (We are waiting to see the final Order to see how the >>>>>> "client AP" is handled.) The rules for the AFC are reasonably >>>>>> conservative, >>>>>> so the licensed PtP users are generally pretty happy with it. And a whole >>>>>> bunch of companies have already been working on AFCs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Low Power Indoor device, on the other hand, does not require AFC. >>>>>> It is limited to indoor use only (must have mains power, may not be >>>>>> weatherproof, must be labeled) and is allowed +30 dBm EIRP (clients +24 >>>>>> dBm). Since those can use any frequency, the incumbents are a wee bit >>>>>> concerned. But between building entry losses (pretty high at 6 GHz) and >>>>>> the >>>>>> directionality of the FS dishes, harmful interference is unlikely. That >>>>>> is >>>>>> likely to be a volume market for Wi-Fi 6e. The higher-end business stuff, >>>>>> and ours, will be standard power. >>>>>> >>>>>> The FNPRM asks about Very Low Power outdoor operation without AFC. >>>>>> Like cell phones and small hotspots. It also asks about higher power for >>>>>> AFC-controlled devices." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:07 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep...lots of buzz from this >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 3:47 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> WISPA said they are waiting for them to release the order. they are >>>>>> hoping it's 36db...there's a chance it's only 30db. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:42 PM Tim Withrow via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I learned that the FCC approved 1200Mhz of unlicensed spectrum in 6 >>>>>> Gigahertz today. >>>>>> >>>>>> any idea what Eirp they approved for fixed wireless? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > Eric Nielsen > 571-508-7409 > ericlniel...@gmail.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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