>local Geoid data set loaded

Is this something most GPS radios would have?  Or just higher end ones?

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:36 AM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
wrote:

> OK here is what I learned from my brother.
>
>
>
> You want to use the Geoid values, however you also want to make sure you
> have the Geoid model loaded in to your Trimble R8 GPS. (for those not
> paying attention that is a survey grade instrument with cm accuracy).
>
> The geoid numbers are tied to the map projection you are using and they
> are also tied to the GPS ground stations you are connected to 9necessary
> for the cm grade accuracy). The Ellipsoid values assume that the earth is
> perfectly/mathematically round. Geoid values correct for the fact that it
> is not perfectly round and the reason why your GPS needs the local Geoid
> data set loaded before you take readings. You do have the Geoid data for
> your area loaded don’t you?
>
>
>
> For radio mobile you will want to use the Geoid height converted to meters.
>
>
>
> Is there LIDAR data for the area in question? It might be easier just to
> use a value from that. Might also be nice to convert the LIDAR to a file
> format for Radio Mobile and use all that data (going to need a lot of disk
> space though).
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:12 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Elevation question
>
>
>
> I have a pretty good GPS receiver.  Trimble R8 with a Yuma data
> collector.  Normally we use it only for lats and longs.
>
> It is corrected in real time with a cellular data modem and a RTK/VRS
> ground station network.
>
>
>
> Yesterday we did a shot from a hill that did not exist when shuttle radar
> data was taken.  It was way off in elevation.
>
> So we took a shot from our parking lot and compared it with what we think
> we know to be the altitude as well as our cell phones and google earth.
>
>
>
> Turns out the R8 has an ellipsoid height as well as another height
> associated with the northing and easting values.
>
> The second one seems to be more in line with what I was expecting.
>
> The local dealer sent me a drawing showing this.  (attached)
>
>
>
> So now I am super confused.  Not sure what number to use when working with
> Radio Mobile.  Do I add the geoid height to the ellipsoid height?
>
>
>
> Was hoping Brian Webster may know or others may know.  Googling google
> earth elevation talks about different versions of geoid.  Not sure if their
> elevations are geoid elevations or not.
>
>
>
> So, rather than dig into it any more I am taking the lazy approach and
> posting the question here.
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