So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was shot by the homeowner?  Am I following that correctly?

That doesn't seem logical.


On 5/11/2020 10:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not use E Verify.  We have a case going where two kids broke in to rob a house, homeowner shot and killed one of them, the one that didnt die is charged with murder because a death occurred during the commission of a crime. So say these plant are committing the crime of hiring undocumented, and a death occurred, then maybe the company leadership could be held criminally liable. would be interesting to see

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    Some people have suggested the spread at meat packing plants
    (which are disinfected daily in the normal course of business) may
    actually be occurring outside the plants, due to things like
    communal housing.  This is a claim rife with social, economic and
    racial prejudice.  Yet I think it has merit.  Which probably means
    I’m prejudiced.

    I would like to think the companies are implementing major changes
    in changing areas, bathrooms, lunchrooms, entrances and exits,
    etc, not just distancing on the production lines.  But I would
    also like to hear that the companies or towns or states or
    somebody is setting up places for infected workers to isolate
    rather than just go home and infect their families and neighbors. 
    Or maybe setup some kind of temporary housing to cut the spread
    outside the plants.

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *James Howard
    *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:08 AM
    *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

    In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who
    died.  He was the union Chief Steward…….

    Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to
    assume that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it
    somewhere else and he was the one that brought it to that plant
    and spread it?

    *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark
    Radabaugh
    *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

    Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all
    that was who they were paying dues to to protect them in the
    workplace.   Apparentl the union did a pretty crappy job.

    Mark

        On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net
        <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

        Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the
        United Food and Commercial Workers Union.

        *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
        Hohhof
        *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
        *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

        A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?

        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
        *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

        And so it begins.

        
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit

            On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown
            <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            Only for ugly people.

            Sent from my iPhone

                On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard
                <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

                

                There are 2 separate issues. Having the government
                tell everyone they must wear a mask is one thing.  A
                business requiring customers wear a mask to enter
                their store is another.  The second actually
                correlates to your example and is certainly the right
                of any business to put certain requirements on using
                their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If
                people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they
                are free to go somewhere else or stay home if no one
                will let them in their place of business.

                On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually
                come before the Supreme Court to decide if it is a
                violation of some “right” or other to be told that
                everyone is required to wear a mask in public.

                *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf
                Of *Matt Hoppes
                *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:53 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>; Steve
                Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability

                To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when
                in public".... do
                you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"?

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