yep
https://wgntv.com/news/homeowner-fatally-shoots-intruder-second-intruder-charged-with-murder/

the crime resulted in a death

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So one burglar is charged with murdering the second burglar who was shot
> by the homeowner?  Am I following that correctly?
>
> That doesn't seem logical.
>
>
> On 5/11/2020 10:53 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Im going to go out on a limb and say these plants probably do not use E
> Verify.  We have a case going where two kids broke in to rob a house,
> homeowner shot and killed one of them, the one that didnt die is charged
> with murder because a death occurred during the commission of a crime. So
> say these plant are committing the crime of hiring undocumented, and a
> death occurred, then maybe the company leadership could be held criminally
> liable. would be interesting to see
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Some people have suggested the spread at meat packing plants (which are
>> disinfected daily in the normal course of business) may actually be
>> occurring outside the plants, due to things like communal housing.  This is
>> a claim rife with social, economic and racial prejudice.  Yet I think it
>> has merit.  Which probably means I’m prejudiced.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to think the companies are implementing major changes in
>> changing areas, bathrooms, lunchrooms, entrances and exits, etc, not just
>> distancing on the production lines.  But I would also like to hear that the
>> companies or towns or states or somebody is setting up places for infected
>> workers to isolate rather than just go home and infect their families and
>> neighbors.  Or maybe setup some kind of temporary housing to cut the spread
>> outside the plants.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *James Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 9:08 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>
>>
>>
>> In case people didn’t read the article, Benjamin is the fellow who died.
>> He was the union Chief Steward…….
>>
>>
>>
>> Another point that occurred to me is that everybody just seems to assume
>> that he contracted COVID at work.  What if he got it somewhere else and he
>> was the one that brought it to that plant and spread it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2020 6:34 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems like they employees should be suing the union, after all that was
>> who they were paying dues to to protect them in the workplace.   Apparentl
>> the union did a pretty crappy job.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2020, at 11:17 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Benjamin was Chief Steward of Local 1776, a chapter of the United Food
>> and Commercial Workers Union.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 10:05 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>
>>
>>
>> A 70 year old was working at a slaughterhouse?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:50 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>
>>
>>
>> And so it begins.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/coronavirus-jbs-meat-plant-pennsylvania-death-lawsuit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2020, at 10:43 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> Only for ugly people.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> There are 2 separate issues. Having the government tell everyone they
>> must wear a mask is one thing.  A business requiring customers wear a mask
>> to enter their store is another.  The second actually correlates to your
>> example and is certainly the right of any business to put certain
>> requirements on using their facility (within lawful limits of course).  If
>> people don’t want to abide by their requirements, they are free to go
>> somewhere else or stay home if no one will let them in their place of
>> business.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, I assume that it will eventually come before the
>> Supreme Court to decide if it is a violation of some “right” or other to be
>> told that everyone is required to wear a mask in public.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On
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>>
>>
>> To those saying "why should I have to wear a mask when in public".... do
>> you also complain about "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"?
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