When did they start having cops in schools? Never once in my K-12
days did I see a policeman in my school. I’ll have to ask my kids
if they ever did. Maybe I led a privileged life.
College had “campus cops” but they were kind of a joke, mostly
relegated to writing parking tickets.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 9:45 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
Not around here. That must be an Illinois thing. I left that place
sometime around 1967.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/15/2020 7:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
you ever seen a podunk meth dealers arsenal?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize
the police. Local podunk PDs have no business buying million
dollar MRAPs.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
the problem is the defund the police folks dont
understand economics. there isnt enough money as it is
for maintaining the police presence for the criminal
side of things. taking that money and paying for a bunch
of counsellors doesnt lead to having enough cops.
Removing police from schools is a 1 percent thing, the
other 99 percent will pull their kids out without
resource officers. Mental health still will need police,
they dont go to a hot environment because they dont have
arrest powers if it goes downhill, and you dont want
jonna the counselor having to fight the loon.
They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete
non starter. They consider the bullet proof vests to be
a mechanism of intimidation, anyone who has actually had
a vest do its job would never let somebody else go in
without one.
Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making
everything illegal, and you immediately have less criminals
stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally
example I wish they would recognize. The media says if
he wasnt guilty, why would he take a plea? I can find
you thousands of young black men who can answer that
question without skipping a beat.
Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually
work for their conviction rates at trial, bet you see a
less burdened court and prison system right quick.
Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole
lot of dough to put into those other programs, and over
time that cost goes down as guards age out and dont need
to be replaced because the cells are empty.
defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and
giving it an antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof
<af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the
police to deal with issues like mental health,
homelessness, domestic disputes, street vendors,
routine discipline in schools, etc., and instead use
that money to fund specialists, and let the police
handle murders and robberies and stuff.
I had a discussion with someone who is all for
defund the police and I said if that’s what they
mean, the term really sucks, because it conveys
something totally different and many people are not
going to support something that sounds like disband
the police and then nobody handles murders and
robberies. Rather than saying reform the police, or
narrow their focus, or move some of their
responsibilities to other agencies. But he said I
was wrong, without really explaining why I was
wrong. I think he meant we can call it what we want
to, who cares if it’s unnecessarily provocative. Or
maybe he really does want to disband the police.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*justsumname .
*Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things
really going totally bathshitcrazy ?!? "de-fund
the police" .... is just ONE thing.
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