Watch the skateboards.
I dont watch news footage, or much released video of the
happenings, because its all edited for predetermined context. I
watch live streams as things happen from the ground.
A. stopping anyones freedom of movement without permit is not
peaceful, period. That makes every instance of blocking traffic
non peaceful. Your rights end where mine begin, mine end where
yours begin, there is no grey area, no overlap and nothing to
discuss, it is simply fact. I mention permit because as a
civilized society we have accepted the fact that we will
occasionally give up some liberty for sanctioned events following
an agreed upon protocol, hence permits. Whether that be a
protest, fair, carnival, concert, road show.
B. Given the covid nonsense, screaming in someones face is in
fact violence (in illinois if spiddle hits, its aggravated
battery right now). Once again, not non violent.
C. Destruction/defacement of public property is not nonviolent.
public property belongs to all people, not just those who
belive that they are the only ones in "We the People". "street
art" is not an acceptable form of protest as it is defacement of
public property.
That eliminates the vast majority of these "protests"
Now, back to the skateboards. If you watch livestreams, the
skateboads are new this riot season/election year. I
couldnt figure out when this season started where all the usual
occupy mob was at. Then I realized they brought about new
tactics. The skateboards. They offer mobility, they are an
excellent cudgel weapon, they can be handled even when jumping
fences without losing transport. And best yet, there is no
surface that holds fingerprints well.
If you watch livestreams, or can find unedited footage (good luck
with that) youll see the skateboards present when the violence
starts. In almost all instances, the first broken window is a
hooded gimp in the periphery smashing a window and slinking off.
The mob instinctively follows. By design.
The first tagging, skateboard gimp tags and drops cans of paint,
then slinks off. (but you have to ask where the rest of the cans
come from. you dont bring spray paint to a "peaceful" protest.
Tow straps are part of a peaceful protest? I didnt realize, but
theyre all there ready to pull statues down, regardless of the
history of the statues.
CHAZ/CHOP/CHUMP was a summer of love, remember? remember the
locals loved it. totally peaceful. Except for the fact the locals
were held hostage and have actually filed lawsuit as such.... not
peaceful, we wont even discuss the murders, rapes, and theft.
When local governments dont protect their citizens from lawless
"protesters" infringing on their liberties, the federal
government has the responsibility to liberate the citizens under
siege. Or the citizen has the right to aptly address those who
would infringe. You dont get to decide the level of threat
another person feels by your choice to infringe. period, its not
up for discussion. If you think it is, you are the epitome of a
fascist, that is not how liberty works.
As for these "jackboots" being unidentified, that is a lie, they
are identified as police, and nowhere in the constitution does it
say the government is mandated to tell you anything about what
they are doing to others. The use of "unmarked vehicles" is also
a lie A. those vehicles have license plates. B. Nowhere does it
say transportation must be identified as law enforcement. As a
matter of fact existing caselaw specifically states otherwise.
These "peaceful protesters" being snatched up and whisked away to
locations are having their minds wiped? nope. They know where
they went, who took them and why. Just because they give a media
interview stating otherwise doesnt make it so. If thatat is the
case in isolated incidents, that will ultimately be handled as an
egregious violation of rights... wanna bet CNN doesnt do any
follow ups with these "victims" though?
so to anyone calling this bullshit "peaceful" I say ROTFLMAO,
because there is no way to have any real discussion with anyone
not operating in reality.
Fact of the matter is, local and state government inept response
and their actively condoning the infringement of citizens
personal liberties by one group over another in an enlightened
2020 is what is going to lead to bloodshed, much sooner than
later. It wont have anything to do with skin tone or who lays
with who either.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:52 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
People can disagree. If we can do it politely then we won't
need lent rules. Instead of laughing, tell me what the fault
in my reasoning is and explain yours. Or tell me what my
incorrect fact is with a citation showing what the correct
fact is. We'd be in better shape if we could do that without
lashing out.
I feel like we (the country) can't even talk about this stuff
anymore. We've removed all nuance from discussing complex
topics and reduced it to meme politics. We express an
opinion with a picture and a one liner, and whether you agree
or disagree puts you on one team or another. Then we angrily
shriek at each other about it. THAT fatigues me more than
ongoing protests ever could. No vote we can make will change
any of that, but maybe we can all change that part of ourselves.
On 7/20/2020 11:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
ROTFLMAO
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:26 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Oh I don't know about that. If a bunch of angry people
assemble peacefully, it wouldn't take much for them to
stop being peaceful.
There are accelerationists who absolutely want to start
a civil war, but they're a fringe movement and giving
them too much credit is the same mistake as giving
"Antifa" too much credit. IMO.
On 7/20/2020 10:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
The BLM protestors are almost completely peaceful. It's
groups like boogaloo who are creating all the ruckus.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 7/20/2020 7:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Federal Hitler tactics are just a recent thing, these
kids have been going nuts for a couple of months.
I respect anyone’s right to PEACEFULLY assemble and to
protest.
(Between 9:00 am and 5:00 pm M-F, holidays excluded,
not on streets, must provide porta potties)
I don’t respect defacing or harming anyone’s property,
public or not. Burning, occupying etc.
I really don’t know what their cause is. Other than
against police brutality. That is a good cause.
Will setting fire to the police building help their cause?
I wonder if you can buy those rubber bullet claymore
mines they tested out on Jackass?
Perhaps install a fire suppression system under the
awning of your store but plumb it up to pepper spray.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2020 8:35 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - political
Hitler tactics by Bunker Boy...there , I said it.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Not trying to break lent, but I am lacking
understanding.
What are the young white kids rioting about in
Portland?
I am from Oregon, I remember protests in the 60s
and 70s over Vietnam.
I also remember a line of State Police walking
through a park downtown and busting heads of those
that did not clear out. Actually one of my first
telco bosses had been one of those State Bull Cops.
Are young white kids just aching for a chance at
anarchy? I don’t get it.
Misbehaving while trying to wrap some kind of
noble cause around you is pretty childish.
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