Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules apply for anyone who 
filed the short form.   Be very careful that what you say in here does not 
violate the FCC rules.   

Everything discussed so far is from the public information the FCC is releasing 
or from the auction public notice.

To read the results Josh posted:

The price does not include discounts - 75% of the posted price if you qualified 
as being under 25M/year in revenue - so closer to 27k    There is also a rural 
provider credit.

It reads:  

In the initial round the price of one 10Mhz PAL was $21,000 not counting any 
discounts you may have been eligible for.  There were 14 bids at that price, 
with only 7 lots available.  
In the second round the price of one PAL was $24,000  (less discounts).  There 
were 15 bids at that price, with only 7 available.

In the 5th round the price for one PAL went up to $33,000 (less discounts) with 
demand down to 10 PAL’s.   The price went up for ALL 7 of the PAL’s.

The price will keep going up until the demand is equal to 7.   Once demand gets 
to 7 there is still a posted price increase - but unless someone adds 
additional demand the price will stay at the previous start of round price.

The price/demand could sit at 7 for the next (insert number) of rounds and then 
start going back up if another bidder decides they are priced out of one county 
and want to move to another county.  Or if they are just playing games.

Once  a county is at or above a demand for 7 PAL’s the price won’t go down.    
If you get a PAL in a round and later decide you don’t want it, you are stuck 
buying it unless someone else bids at the higher price.   You can change your 
demand to 0, saying you don’t want it anymore, but unless someone else wants it 
you are stuck with it.   Just like a normal auction - once you are the winning 
bidder, you own it unless someone outbids you.

For bidders there are required activity levels that you have to meet.  
Essentially you have to bid 95% of your initial deposit on each round.   If you 
don’t bid that what you are allowed to bid in the next round goes down.   The 
rule is basically to keep bidders from sandbagging - if you haven’t been 
bidding and are just waiting to see what others are going to do you will run 
out of eligibility pretty quickly. 

Mark

> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
> 
> It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down though! lol 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No idea how to read this:
>> 
>> <image.png>
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Josh,
>> 
>> Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block?
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds that are 
>> taking place this week?
>> 
>> Haven't really been keeping up with this.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I also lost track of the whole auction situation.  Will there be another 
>> round later?  Seems like nobody bid on some of the counties around us, and I 
>> wish I'd thrown in a minimum bid at this point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our 
>>> 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it 
>>> serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the 
>>> world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it 
>>> there was no time to learn enough about the auction
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:54 PM Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com 
>>> <mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com>> wrote:
>>> My guess is none...
>>> 
>>> Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing.
>>> 
>>> So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal"
>>> 
>>> FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die.
>>> 
>>> When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys for 
>>> bid I knew there was no chance.
>>> 
>>> Let the lawsuits FLY...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/27/2020 5:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>> > On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>> >> https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 
>>> >> <https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is all 
>>> > done.
>>> >
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