drinking! They be purchased after the auction?
Divided over 10 years,  it's a manageable number for interference free
spectrum. What do you pay per year in interference related truck rolls,
tech time and list satisfaction?

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:06 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Obviously the last round is public knowledge. After the auction is over,
> are the results of all rounds public information?
>
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> *From: *"Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:11:20 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far
>
> Correct - no way to tell who is bidding.   The complete list of bidders is
> public knowledge:
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidders
>
> Which counties those 271 bidders are bidding on is only known by the FCC
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> I assume the 14 or 15 bidders is a closely guarded secret?  I can't begin
> to think who would be able to pay 30k around here for that besides
> Verizon/AT&T/Sprint...
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules apply for anyone
>> who filed the short form.   Be very careful that what you say in here does
>> not violate the FCC rules.
>>
>> Everything discussed so far is from the public information the FCC is
>> releasing or from the auction public notice.
>>
>> To read the results Josh posted:
>>
>> The price does not include discounts - 75% of the posted price if you
>> qualified as being under 25M/year in revenue - so closer to 27k    There is
>> also a rural provider credit.
>>
>> It reads:
>>
>> In the initial round the price of one 10Mhz PAL was $21,000 not counting
>> any discounts you may have been eligible for.  There were 14 bids at that
>> price, with only 7 lots available.
>> In the second round the price of one PAL was $24,000  (less discounts).
>> There were 15 bids at that price, with only 7 available.
>>
>> In the 5th round the price for one PAL went up to $33,000 (less
>> discounts) with demand down to 10 PAL’s.   The price went up for ALL 7 of
>> the PAL’s.
>>
>> The price will keep going up until the demand is equal to 7.   Once
>> demand gets to 7 there is still a posted price increase - but unless
>> someone adds additional demand the price will stay at the previous start of
>> round price.
>>
>> The price/demand could sit at 7 for the next (insert number) of rounds
>> and then start going back up if another bidder decides they are priced out
>> of one county and want to move to another county.  Or if they are just
>> playing games.
>>
>> Once  a county is at or above a demand for 7 PAL’s the price won’t go
>> down.    If you get a PAL in a round and later decide you don’t want it,
>> you are stuck buying it unless someone else bids at the higher price.   You
>> can change your demand to 0, saying you don’t want it anymore, but unless
>> someone else wants it you are stuck with it.   Just like a normal auction -
>> once you are the winning bidder, you own it unless someone outbids you.
>>
>> For bidders there are required activity levels that you have to meet.
>> Essentially you have to bid 95% of your initial deposit on each round.   If
>> you don’t bid that what you are allowed to bid in the next round goes down.
>>   The rule is basically to keep bidders from sandbagging - if you haven’t
>> been bidding and are just waiting to see what others are going to do you
>> will run out of eligibility pretty quickly.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
>>
>> It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down though! lol
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> No idea how to read this:
>>
>> <image.png>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>> Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds
>>>> that are taking place this week?
>>>>
>>>> Haven't really been keeping up with this.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also lost track of the whole auction situation.  Will there be
>>>>> another round later?  Seems like nobody bid on some of the counties around
>>>>> us, and I wish I'd thrown in a minimum bid at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for
>>>>> our 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it
>>>>> serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the
>>>>> world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it
>>>>> there was no time to learn enough about the auction
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:54 PM Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My guess is none...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> bid I knew there was no chance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let the lawsuits FLY...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/27/2020 5:51 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>>>> > On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>>>>> >> https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> > done.
>>>>>> >
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