Why haven't you already invented this product?  That will sell itself.

On 8/20/2020 5:29 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Duct Diapers – Keep the Sh*t out of your hole.
*From:* Carl Peterson
*Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 2:58 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit
Duct Diapers TM.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:51 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

    That’s what I thought he meant.

    Maybe toss in some diapers with the sodium polyacrylate that
    swells up and absorbs like 100 times its weight in water.  But
    then it might bust out the cover on the handhole, like The Hulk
    bursting out of his clothes.

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
    *Sent:* Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:57 AM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

    I'm having visions of Chucks handholes just filled to the brim
    with solid foam.  Like Bruno's Spray foam packaging from 'Grim
    Fandango'

    On 8/20/2020 11:46 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

        What do you use for foam in the ducts?

        On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 8:42 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
        wrote:

            Hand holes fill with muddy water. You should foam them
            when you are done to prevent this.

            Sent from my iPhone



                On Aug 19, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Ken Hohhof
                <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

                

                Is it normal for the duct to be full of mud?  That
                seems ungood.  I’m also assuming the fiber in that
                duct is carrying traffic and it would be very bad to
                break it and then not be able to replace it.

                *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
                *Mark Radabaugh
                *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:56 PM
                *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

                You still need a way to get air in the duct.   Either
                this:
                https://www.gmptools.com/innerduct-pressurization-test-kit/
                or this https://www.gmptools.com/line-blowing/ to
                attach to the compressor. Neither tool is very
                expensive (relative to the stupid price of most things
                fiber)

                Mark

                    On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh
                    <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

                    Something like this:
                    https://www.gmptools.com/cable-overblowing-junction-box/

                    Put the real cable in the one side and block the
                    other port or use it for water.  Hum…  water going
                    backwards through the compressor isn’t a great
                    idea.  And pushing air back the water supply isn’t
                    great. OK, fill it with water and block the other
                    port.   Add air and wait.  Once you have half
                    decent airflow change to water.

                    Mark

                        On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
                        wrote:

                        You might get away with sealing it up really
                        good where the fiber exits and then making a
                        hole in the side of the duct small enough for
                        the tip of an air blower.  Not sure how much
                        air you will get this way but easy to try. Use
                        mastic and then tape to seal it.  You might be
                        able to couple a pressure washer to it too.

                        -----Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:00 PM
                        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

                        I have a clamp thing that clamps over the duct
                        and cable and seals it all
                        up.  It has an air port coming in from the
                        side.  And I use a 375 CFM 150
                        psi compressor.

                        I am guessing you could slip a copper tube
                        down the duct and tape the crap
                        out of everything with black vinyl tape.  Just
                        use as much air as you can
                        get.  Be sure to inject as much water as you
                        can inject first.

                        -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
                        Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:32 PM
                        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

                        How do you seal it up with the existing fiber
                        in there to be able to
                        blow it?  How much PSI do you use?  Will a
                        portable air compressor be
                        enough?  Other end of the conduit is in a
                        building, so I can only blow
                        the mud 1 way :)

                        On 8/19/2020 4:30 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

                            Use compressed air to blow water through
                            it.  Once you get it flushed your fish
                            tape might go.

                            -----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
                            Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:19 PM
                            To: Animal Farm
                            Subject: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

                            Anybody have secrets for locating mud
                            filled conduit? Trying to locate
                            a 1" poly with a non-toneable fiber
                            installed in it. No trace wire
                            installed. Conduit is full of Mud, and at
                            the bottom of a handhole that
                            is also filled with Mud. Conduit goes from
                            handhole under a parking
                            lot, so digging to find it isn't an option
                            either. We were not involved
                            in the installation of this conduit, but
                            it is now our problem.

                            We got a flat steel fish tape pushed in
                            just far enough to finish the
                            current locate request, but it's not going
                            any farther. At some point
                            in the future I'm probably going to get a
                            locate request further down
                            the conduit path.  What super-secret
                            method do you guys that live and
                            breath underground work have for dealing
                            with this?



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