Is it normal for the duct to be full of mud?  That seems ungood.  I’m also 
assuming the fiber in that duct is carrying traffic and it would be very bad to 
break it and then not be able to replace it.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 5:56 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

 

You still need a way to get air in the duct.   Either this: 
https://www.gmptools.com/innerduct-pressurization-test-kit/  or this 
https://www.gmptools.com/line-blowing/ to attach to the compressor.   Neither 
tool is very expensive (relative to the stupid price of most things fiber)

 

Mark





On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
<mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

 

Something like this:  https://www.gmptools.com/cable-overblowing-junction-box/

 

Put the real cable in the one side and block the other port or use it for 
water.  Hum…  water going backwards through the compressor isn’t a great idea.  
And pushing air back the water supply isn’t great.   OK, fill it with water and 
block the other port.   Add air and wait.  Once you have half decent airflow 
change to water.

 

Mark





On Aug 19, 2020, at 6:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:

 

You might get away with sealing it up really good where the fiber exits and 
then making a hole in the side of the duct small enough for the tip of an air 
blower.  Not sure how much air you will get this way but easy to try. Use 
mastic and then tape to seal it.  You might be able to couple a pressure washer 
to it too.

-----Original Message----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

I have a clamp thing that clamps over the duct and cable and seals it all
up.  It has an air port coming in from the side.  And I use a 375 CFM 150
psi compressor.

I am guessing you could slip a copper tube down the duct and tape the crap
out of everything with black vinyl tape.  Just use as much air as you can
get.  Be sure to inject as much water as you can inject first.

-----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

How do you seal it up with the existing fiber in there to be able to
blow it?  How much PSI do you use?  Will a portable air compressor be
enough?  Other end of the conduit is in a building, so I can only blow
the mud 1 way :)

On 8/19/2020 4:30 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>  wrote:



Use compressed air to blow water through it.  Once you get it flushed your fish 
tape might go.

-----Original Message----- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 3:19 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Locating mud filled conduit

Anybody have secrets for locating mud filled conduit?  Trying to locate
a 1" poly with a non-toneable fiber installed in it. No trace wire
installed. Conduit is full of Mud, and at the bottom of a handhole that
is also filled with Mud.  Conduit goes from handhole under a parking
lot, so digging to find it isn't an option either. We were not involved
in the installation of this conduit, but it is now our problem.

We got a flat steel fish tape pushed in just far enough to finish the
current locate request, but it's not going any farther.  At some point
in the future I'm probably going to get a locate request further down
the conduit path.  What super-secret method do you guys that live and
breath underground work have for dealing with this?



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