Improper entry is a misdemeanor.  Being here is not illegal.  INAL so don't
take my advice and enter improperly.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 3:08 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I view regulatory infractions different than laws.  I am not sure if
> someone sneaks in and works if that is actually breaking the law or
> violating a regulation.
> Either way it is not in the same class as robbing a bank or importing
> heroin.
>
> More like jaywalking in my book.  But others believe it is more like
> stealing your boat or shooting you dog or something.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 1:56 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
> Yeah....there are two separate comments there.
>
> 1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's their own
> damn fault.
> 2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market for them.
>
>
> On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work visas, they
> aren’t illegal immigrants.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm.  I don't know what
> "good size" is in other areas, but here it's 6 figures of head of cattle,
> and millions of dollars annually.  Every single worker was brought up from
> central america on a work visa.  The farm gave them a trailer to live in
> and paid them $8-something per hour....which at the time was 50% above
> minimum.  The local Caucasians would generally not show up sober for that
> amount of money.
>
> Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about immigration and
> specifically "The Wall".
>
> I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant labor.  He
> shouted at me that we should let the free market come up with a solution.
> I looked at him quizzically and said, "Bro....the free market HAS a
> solution, and it's the illegal immigrants."
>
>
>
> On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I have been doing this for a long time.  Both manufacturing and OSP
> construction.  The entry level and unskilled labor candidates are of
> general lousy quality amongst whites.  All the drama and drug use is with
> the whites.  Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause problems and
> have far less drug issues.
>
>
>
> I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that we had to take
> back to the office mid shift), that when confronted with chronic
> absenteeism, not sharing the load with coworkers, being confrontational
> with coworkers etc attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
> have these problems if you guys bought new equipment”.... !?!  Right before
> getting fired his supervisor asked: “That vacuum excavator sprays water and
> sucks mud, how would it be any better if it was brand new?”.  The guys
> mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy equipment.  And that
> our OT is crimping his freedom.  Supervisor told him that it was his lucky
> day.  He was about to get a ton of freedom.
>
>
>
> But this is somewhat of a typical thing.  Lazy entitled white bums.  We
> have a ton of them around here it seems.
>
>
>
> *From:* Cameron Crum
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my house one time
> and he told me he only hires other mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not
> Mexi-CAN'Ts.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> I swear, if they were available, my company would be 100% Hispanic.
> Racist or not, white guys are lousy employees when compared to Hispanics.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
>
>
>
> Same here.  He didn't show up, called to see if he was OK, he blocked the
> call and texted back "boss gave me more money".
>
> Well..why look for the other job?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> So we get this guy to do the pre employment assessments.  He passes the
> first interview.  Passes the second interview (had to go to two different
> places for the interviews).  Supposed to start today.  No-show.  Called him
> to see if he is OK he hangs up on us.
>
>
>
> Sad to say, this is the norm.  Out of 100 applications, 10 will actually
> agree to an interview.  Maybe 3 will show up.  We will hire 1 and he will
> not show up or last out the week.  Indeed works pretty good to find people
> and I am paying for it, but wow.  Go to all the effort of interviewing, we
> do a background check now for driving problems, and then a no show.  I
> don’t understand people.
>
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