I just wish that we would open up our "regulations/laws" to let people
have citizenship easier. simpler entry, harsher ejection for fucking
up, shorter time to citizenship. Wipe out the masive cost of managing
illegal aliens and focus that cash on helping get legal entries
onboarded.
But the truth is, most migrant (seasonal migrant)workers dont want
citizenship. Lawful migrant workers make bank compared to their nation
of origin, even afer paying taxes here they live very well back home,
with less nonsense. When I use to work at a motel there was a massive
project going on at our landfill, it was leeching into the soil
because the liner was improper. So this copmany had a massive work
crew of mexicans, even most of the foreman were mexicans, I assume the
ownership was other. They were trained spelunkers, which a i ssume
they were given a shovel,a rope and instructions not to die under the
landfil. they had to dig under the entire landfill and place a liner.
The smell alone made it 99 percent non american,
These fellas for the most part were awesome guys, had a ton of hand
gesture conversations with guys where we both were speaking louder
hoping it would make the other guy understand. The fellas that spoke
better english flat our said they had no interest in citizenship. They
would come work this company a few visa rotations and go back home and
live like kings. Starting pay worked out to about 36k and that was 22
years ago, they had no expenses while here. They left before light and
came back after dark, so I dont know what the hourly wage worked out
to. They didnt seem to care, they all looked at is as an x year time
investment (contrary to popular belief among alot of my maga
compatriots, mexicans arent dumb ust because we dont speak their
language and they smile too much) for a massive long term payout in
quality of life.
Most mexicans as it turns out arent yearning to be in america, they
think we are dicks and they love their nation as much as we love ours,
theyre just not raised with every luxury and safety net we are. One of
the drawbacks of USMCA is some of the mandatory minimum pay
requirements in mexican facilities. Raise mexicos quality of life too
high, theyll become assholes like us and we wont have any labor thats
worth a shit
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 3:21 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:
Improper entry is a misdemeanor. Being here is not illegal. INAL
so don't take my advice and enter improperly.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 3:08 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I view regulatory infractions different than laws. I am not
sure if someone sneaks in and works if that is actually
breaking the law or violating a regulation.
Either way it is not in the same class as robbing a bank or
importing heroin.
More like jaywalking in my book. But others believe it is
more like stealing your boat or shooting you dog or something.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 1:56 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
Yeah....there are two separate comments there.
1) If someone really loses their job to an immigrant, that's
their own damn fault.
2) The ones who come illegally do it because there's a market
for them.
On 8/28/2020 3:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
All good points, except if they are migrant laborers on work
visas, they aren’t illegal immigrants.
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Adam
Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 2:23 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
My mother was a bookkeeper for a good size dairy farm. I
don't know what "good size" is in other areas, but here it's
6 figures of head of cattle, and millions of dollars
annually. Every single worker was brought up from central
america on a work visa. The farm gave them a trailer to live
in and paid them $8-something per hour....which at the time
was 50% above minimum. The local Caucasians would generally
not show up sober for that amount of money.
Closer to the present I was arguing with my brother about
immigration and specifically "The Wall".
I cited the economic problems we'd have without the migrant
labor. He shouted at me that we should let the free market
come up with a solution. I looked at him quizzically and
said, "Bro....the free market HAS a solution, and it's the
illegal immigrants."
On 8/28/2020 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I have been doing this for a long time. Both
manufacturing and OSP construction. The entry level and
unskilled labor candidates are of general lousy quality
amongst whites. All the drama and drug use is with the
whites. Hispanics work hard, quick learners, don’t cause
problems and have far less drug issues.
I had a white guy get fired a few days ago, (the one that
we had to take back to the office mid shift), that when
confronted with chronic absenteeism, not sharing the load
with coworkers, being confrontational with coworkers etc
attempted to justify all of this with “well we wouldn’t
have these problems if you guys bought new equipment”....
!?! Right before getting fired his supervisor asked:
“That vacuum excavator sprays water and sucks mud, how
would it be any better if it was brand new?”. The guys
mumbled something about a lousy company operates lousy
equipment. And that our OT is crimping his freedom.
Supervisor told him that it was his lucky day. He was
about to get a ton of freedom.
But this is somewhat of a typical thing. Lazy entitled
white bums. We have a ton of them around here it seems.
*From:*Cameron Crum
*Sent:*Friday, August 28, 2020 10:01 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
I had a self-identified mexican contractor working on my
house one time and he told me he only hires other
mexicans because they are Mexi-CANs not Mexi-CAN'Ts.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I swear, if they were available, my company would be
100% Hispanic. Racist or not, white guys are lousy
employees when compared to Hispanics.
*From:*Josh Luthman
*Sent:*Friday, August 28, 2020 9:30 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT new hires
Same here. He didn't show up, called to see if he
was OK, he blocked the call and texted back "boss
gave me more money".
Well..why look for the other job?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:22 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
So we get this guy to do the pre employment
assessments. He passes the first interview.
Passes the second interview (had to go to two
different places for the interviews). Supposed to
start today. No-show. Called him to see if he is
OK he hangs up on us.
Sad to say, this is the norm. Out of 100
applications, 10 will actually agree to an
interview. Maybe 3 will show up. We will hire 1
and he will not show up or last out the week.
Indeed works pretty good to find people and I am
paying for it, but wow. Go to all the effort of
interviewing, we do a background check now for
driving problems, and then a no show. I don’t
understand people.
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