"Effective" seems to have a very fluid definition, based on one's perception of the political ideology of the one using the term.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:24:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Not proven effective... On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 7:44 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: Now I feel like you invited me to deny it. A whole string of countries approved use of Remdesivir for Covid19 within a few months time period in the spring of 2020. The US was right in the middle of the pack in May. I'm glad the FDA approved emergency use of it just like everybody else did. It would be more noteworthy if they didn't . The Trump administration took credit for increasing supply of Remdesivir through "an Amazing deal with Gilead" on June 29th. But on May 5th (almost 2 months before that), Gilead announced that they increased supply by voluntarily licensing production to generic drug manufacturers in India and Pakistan. Do I thank Gilead for making what people want to buy, or thank Trump for asking Gilead to sell the product that they manufactured for the purpose of selling? It might be just as appropriate to thank the invisible hand of the free market because I can't imagine a scenario where Gilead makes the product and then doesn't sell it to hospitals. If we had a president Clinton or presidents Beavis & Butthead would Gilead have increased production and then not sold it? Or would the FDA not authorize emergency use right around when other major countries did? Explain to me what DJT did in this scenario because I don't see it. I hope your dad comes through. My spammy troll email is not intended to indicate any diminished sympathy for you and yours. On 11/12/2020 1:59 AM, Steve Jones wrote: <blockquote> This ones probably inappropriate, but no body can deny how accurate it is On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 10:25 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Morons can say what they will, because that's what they do, like trained monkeys. "Orange man bad", good little trainee. I can tell you this, they gave my dad his first dose of remdesivere tonite, you can rest assured, podunk Illinois wouldnt be giving podunk 78 year old man a medication like that as a first line med if the scamdemic hadn't been handled like a boss. See pandemic is pandemic, there is no such thing as "handling it right" l anybody who says there is is a part of the above mentioned group of morons. 50 50 if the old man comes home. But my orange "buffoon" opened a door that got his odds up from the original 80 percent coffin rate. That's what I laugh at "orange man bad" idiots that spout their hypocrisy, bigotry and generally retarded tripe. Rotflmao, however some more cliches... the change my mind On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 8:27 PM Chuck Macenski < ch...@macenski.com > wrote: <blockquote> If Trump were trying to undermine the United States, what would he be doing differently? On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:14 PM Robert < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: <blockquote> Having the DOJ chase down military people who vote out of state for years because of normal military transfers ( 3K so far in NV ) which has been the normal state of affairs for over 70 years and characterize that as voter fraud is going a little bit too far in my book. I still am hoping that he is going after that more about raising money than actually thinking he can corrupt the belief in the voting system. On 11/11/20 7:38 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: <blockquote> I don’t agree at all. Trump got elected because more than half the country really really really disliked Hillary. Really really really disliked Hillary. I don’t know of anyone that voted for Trump because they liked him. Everyone I know thought he was an ass hat from the get go. Second, you all have seen, first hand, for 4 years how little a president can actually do to harm a country. Not much. He didn’t start any wars so that is about the most damaging thing he can do. He didn’t act on the virus properly but lots of countries fall into the same category. He embarrassed us on the world stage. That is about it. Congress can affect us. Presidents not so much. We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture. Some call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I support our country and our national interests above other nations. Part of rooting for the home team. Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The scariest part is how many actually voted for an inept nationalist xenophobic clown ...it portends of bad things ahead. Study history and you will see how this nationalism fervor led to Nazi growth in Europe... The proof is overwhelming... Prove me wrong. On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 9:41 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> I cant take credit on that one Heres some crazy stuff, I'm pretty sure offering up campaign funds for anything other than a campaign is illegal. I told you guys, this is gonna get hilarious. By the time it's all said and done, theyll find 100 percent evidence biden cheated and there will be no republicans left not in prison for the RNC to put in the big seat. https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-offers-dollar1-million-in-campaign-funds-for-voter-fraud-evidence Was reading another article from one of the mainstreams about what happens if there is no certification and the congress has to vote in a new potus, apparently it's not limited to the two candidates, it's got to do with aggregate votes and would potentially leave bernie sanders in a position to be president. Its was MSM and they're full of shit all the time but it sounded good. Can you imagine that, the dnc fucked this guy over twice in a concerted effort, particularly in 2016 when he had a real good chance of beating the republican., and then he pulls that feat off. I'd love it. I hate his policies, and hed have zero chance of implementing 95 percent of them, but I'd pay to watch that happen. 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