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Every politician SHOULD
break from their party if they feel a different
way about an issue. I don't believe in "falling in
line" for everything.
Good people think for themselves, not what their
party's platform is.
I'm fiscally a Republican but for human rights and
equality, I'm a Democrat.
Republicans have a very hard time showing they
care about anyone other than white men. They need
to stop treating women, blacks, gays, trans,
different people as anything less than. And for
gosh sake, stop trying to bring religion into
Government. Have they not heard of separation of
church and state?!?! Abortion should not be a
federal government issue.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:32 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mitt Romney is
apparently willing to split from his party
when he feels strongly about something.
Whether that means he's a "RINO" or it
means he has personal integrity seems to
be a matter of opinion. I'm trying to
think of a Democratic legislator who would
break with party lines to agree with a
Republican position on
something.....coming up blank. Is Romney
a Unicorn in that respect?
On 11/20/2020 12:22 PM, Robert wrote:
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It would
have been a really tough choice
between Mitt and Biden for me.
Probably would have crossed to
Mitt. Not that I am necessarily a
democrat but I really don't like
what the republican congress has
become besides Mitt.
On 11/20/20 9:15 AM, Adam Moffett
wrote:
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I
don't think anyone really
knows for sure what he's
worth, and that's part of
how it's so easy to build
different narratives about
it.
He seems to have received
around $400 million from
his parents. About a
million from a trust fund
and the rest from a
variety of revenue streams
they set up for him. If
he's worth $2.5 billion
today, that would imply
something like 5% annual
growth. That's not an
epic failure, but it's
pretty modest. Except
guesses about his net
worth range from $700mil
to $7billion, and even he
is inconsistent in what he
says about it. He's
somewhere from terrible,
to ok, to really good and
everyone gets to fill in
the blanks with their own
version.
I don't hate him, but I am
embarrassed of him. Every
time I hear him speak,
something unbelievable
comes out. His behavior
before and during his
presidency demonstrates
deep moral failings. His
messaging seems to be
about symbolic emotional
cues without any regard to
factuality (aka
bullshitting). I don't
blame anybody for voting
for him in 2016. When it
was Hillary Clinton
against an unknown
outsider, it's easy to say
"let's give this outsider
a shot." I think at this
point he's made it very
clear that he doesn't know
what to do with his
office.
I don't think Biden was
anybody's first choice
either, but if it comes to
the lesser of evils then
Biden seems the lesser.
-Adam
On 11/20/2020 10:47 AM,
Mark - Myakka Technologies
wrote:
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Robert,
You guys are
right. He is the
Jacques Clouseau
of the business
world. Just
fumbling and
bumbling his way
for the past 40
years. No one has
caught on to his
secret. He is
just an idiot that
luckily is able to
get bigger idiots
to back him. He
has been cheating
the IRS for years
and years.
Luckily for the
IRS, his tax
returns will be
released and all
the armchair
accounts will be
able to help the
IRS do a proper
audit.
I understand your
pure hatred of
him. He is not
the most likable
person. But,
please he is a
business man. We
have no idea what
his books look
like or where his
loans are. He has
undertaken some
risky investments
and deals over the
years. Some work,
some don't, it is
business. I guess
successful is a
relative term.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Friday, November
20, 2020, 10:00:21
AM, you wrote:
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Which would be the perfect example of the
propaganda
that has
propped him up
for the last
40 years.
Well now the
chickens will
come home to
roost. He has
a billion
dollars of
loans to
renegotiate (
gee guess why
he wants to be
in charge of
the party,
access to
truckloads of
cash ) and the
IRS to
convince that
his write offs
were real now
that they are
going to go
under public
review..
Could be
interesting...
On 11/20/20
6:25 AM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: this press conference
Trump
was never a
successful
businessman,
that is a myth.
Mitt yes, Donald
no.
From: AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
On
Behalf Of Mark
- Myakka
Technologies
Sent:
Friday, November
20, 2020 8:03 AM
To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave Users
Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG] OT:
this press
conference
Darin,
Trump was not
presidential
material, that
is a fact. He
is a businessman
not a
politician. He
had no idea on
how government
worked. He was
going in to the
job with an
outsiders view
of politics. He
crashed the
Washington
wedding and they
didn't like it.
He brought his
friends and
family. The man
didn't stand a
chance. The
left started
calling for
impeachment
before he was
inaugurated.
Hell some of
them even made a
big stink that
they weren't
even going to
show for his
inauguration
being he was
illegitimate.
Frankly the
right was no
help at the
beginning
either, they
didn't support
him. He
surrounded
himself with a
bunch of
outsiders that
didn't know the
unwritten rules
of Washington.
The media does
lean left. They
were
embarrassed,
they told us for
months Hillary
was going to be
the next
President. They
hate Trump and
Trump hates
them. Once the
media figured
out how to push
his buttons, it
was just a big
game for them.
He was a lone
wolf with no
support at all.
Seemed like
everyone was
against him,
except for the
people that
voted for him.
Let's assume he
was the worst
president ever,
one soul away
from being the
devil himself.
Seems like we
survived.
Almost 75M
people voted to
keep him in
office. You can
dismiss that as
cult or a bunch
of uneducated
rednecks, but is
is still 75M
people.
Contrary to
popular belief,
he did do some
good things.
HBC got
multi-year
funding. He
didn't start any
new wars.
I was listening
to a Obama doing
an interview
yesterday. He
was talking
about the hard
time he had in
office with the
birther stuff.
He made a very
interesting
comment. He
said that some
people didn't
know him. If
they only
listened to FOX
news, they only
knew a
caricature of
him. The exact
same thing can
be said about
Trump.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka
Technologies, Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Thursday, November
19, 2020, 11:58:10
PM, you wrote:
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The
only reason
the media
ripped on
trump is
because he was
a disgrace to
the high
office of
President. He
made a joke of
our country.
He bullied,
tweeted, and
lied for his
entire term.
If a Democrat
acted the same
way trump did,
I would fully
expect all
news to rip on
them too.
Trump further
divided our
country, shit
on our allies,
and shared
hateful
conspiracy
theories.
He craves
attention,
refuses to
lose, and any
time he tried
to do
something good
he would ruin
it with some
tweet. He
fired more
staff than any
other
president in
history. He's
paranoid,
rude, and
holds grudges.
He shows no
empathy for
anyone. He
doesn't show
compassion. He
doesn't show
love. He
doesn't
forgive. He
doesn't
forget. He
doesn't lead.
He never talks
about his
family. He
expects
loyalty and
for people to
bend the knee.
I've never
been more
embarrassed
for our
country when
he was
elected. We
needed a
politician in
office, not a
celebrity. He
rocked the
boat but not
in a good way.
Give me a
stable
republican and
I may vote for
them if they
care about
every
American, not
just their
base.
Sidenote: I
was grocery
shopping
tonight and
someone was
wearing a
shirt that
said: Trump
2020. FUCK
YOUR FEELINGS
Real classy
trump
supporter.
Wearing a
shirt like
that at our
local Hyvee
with kids and
families
shopping. I'm
embarrassed
people think
it's ok to
wear things
like that. 1st
amendment
allows them to
but it's still
disrespectful.
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020,
10:20 PM Mark
- Myakka
Technologies
<m...@mailmt.com>
wrote:
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It
doesn't matter
who won, the
outcome is the
same. All of
us should have
been
intelligent
enough to
predict this.
The only way
this would
have ended
well for the
country would
have been a
landslide for
Biden. Not
saying Biden
is good for
the country,
but it was the
only chance we
may have had
not to deal
with this
bullshit.
If Trump won
in a
landslide,
mainstream
media would
just continue
with the
non-stop
bashing for
another four
years. He
would have
been declared
an
illegitimate
president
again. The
story would be
the same as
last time
"look at the
polls, no way
he could have
won, must of
cheated". We
would be
watching
cities burn
right now.
If roles were
reversed and
Trump had the
slim lead, the
Biden camp
would be doing
the same thing
the Trump camp
is doing now.
Do you really
think Biden
would have
conceded. The
only
difference, is
the mainstream
media would
have been
digging deep
to find each
and every
"fake" vote
for Trump.
They would be
working
overtime.
Every story
would be
assumed true
and not
debated. No
winner would
be declared
yet.
When the
counting is
done, Trump
will end up
with almost
75M votes.
That is more
that 10M more
than Hillary
got in 2016.
About 12M more
people voted
for Trump this
time around.
More
minorities
voted for
Trump this
time around.
Did you really
think Trump's
base would
just accept
the losing
outcome? Did
you really
think Biden's
base would
have accepted
a losing
outcome? On
the plus side
the scales
tipped to the
left, so at
least we
aren't seeing
the riots.
This election
will never be
accepted by
half the
country, just
like the last
election was
never accepted
by half the
country. Only
difference is
at least on
the nightly
news I won't
have to listen
to 100% Trump
bashing day in
and day out
trying to
scare me
straight. It
was getting
depressing.
Everything was
bad news. I
swear if Trump
found the cure
for cancer, it
would have
been spun as
bad news.
Come February,
everything
will be
reported as
unicorns and
rainbows.
Life in the
old USA will
be great.
There will be
no issues.
Fox News will
move right
center, I
don't think
they will be
as hard on
Biden as CNN
was on Trump.
Social media
will be where
all the Trump
supports go.
But they will
be banned form
the main sites
and live on
the fringe.
The left has
the ball. All
these problems
that have been
drilled into
our heads for
the past 4
years are now
their issue to
fix. They
have 2 years
to convince us
they can do a
better job.
Both the house
and senate
majorities are
so thin,
either one can
flip in two
years.
Finally, it
really doesn't
matter. Our
daily lives
will not
change that
much. Sure
we'll probably
have to deal
with Net
Neutrality
again. Maybe
some type of
national tax
on Internet
service is in
the future.
Maybe another
healthcare
shake up.
Maybe there
will be some
half-assed
legislation on
gun control or
immigration,
but no real
fix. The
precedent was
set in the
last 4 years,
every
executive
action will be
taken to
court.
But we'll
adapt and
continue
moving on. We
always do.
--
Best regards,
Mark
mailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka
Technologies,
Inc.
www.Myakka.com
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Thursday,
November 19,
2020, 10:23:07
PM, you wrote:
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Steve,
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/wayne-circuit-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-against-city-of-detroit-alleging-election-fraud
Please
read this
article and
the judge's 13
page ruling on
what you claim
is fraud. You
and trump have
been shot down
again.
Judge's are
denying these
suits left and
right, some of
them getting
quite heated
in their
opinions
suggesting
they shouldn't
even be
wasting their
breath on
these baseless
claims.
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020, 9:01
PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
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not
going to play
your game. I
watched the
mutt put up
the cardboard
and stand
there like a
gimp. everyone
watched when
they tried to
serve the
judges order
and were still
denied access,
facts are
simply that,
facts.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/media/detroit-windows-covered-ballots-vote-center/index.html
except
the
"protesters"
were poll
watcher, your
team cant even
lie well
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/05/philadelphia-court-decision-poll-watchers-now-allowed-within-6-feet-of-ballot-counting-at-pennsylvania-convention-center/
your
kind will say
that
binoculars are
good enough.
odd that
judges ruled
on something
that didnt
happen, are
you saying the
judges lied?
just because
you dont want
it to be true
doesnt make
something
"debunked".
Just admit
there were
issues,
present
solutions. 4
years spent
pushing a
russian
narrative that
was literally
debunked and
always offered
without
evidence
(hint, there
was none).
pick a single
narrative and
run with said
narrative,
across the
board. much
like the elder
cruelty of
putting rudy
and joe in the
spotlight
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
8:21 PM Darin
Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
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Steve,
Cite your
sources that
poll watchers
weren't
allowed to
observe. You
won't be able
to because in
every case so
far, there
have been poll
watchers
inside
watching the
count in every
precinct.
You only saw
some angry
trump
supporters
standing
outside in
Detroit trying
to get in when
there were
already 200+
republic poll
watchers
already
inside. They
put up
cardboard
because the
people outside
were being
distracting.
Every court
filing that
has been filed
so far has
proven that
poll watchers
were not kept
out. Only
"extras" that
showed up were
blocked
because you
don't need any
more inside a
building than
already
existed.
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020, 8:12
PM Bill Prince
<part15...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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Oh
sure. We are
now using some
schmoe in a
stocking cap
for "news"?
Part of the
reason we are
in the
situation we
are in is that
we pay more
attention to
clowns than
they deserve.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
4:21 PM
justsumname
<unixday...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBdfxJdlvcE
It
is getting
interesting,
and this
election thing
is still far
from over.
--
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
2:45 PM Steve
Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
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lol,
they just
elected a guy
president with
the same
cruelty, so
thats not
really much of
a thing
anymore
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
1:43 PM Ken
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:
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It’s
cruel of
people to keep
putting Rudy
in the public
eye when
clearly he’s
not all there
anymore, I
don’t know if
it’s dementia
or what, but
he needs to be
sitting on a
porch
somewhere
playing
checkers, not
making a fool
of himself for
the world to
see. Of
course he’s
always been a
little off,
look at his
marriage
history. I
assume since
he was a
lawyer and
mayor he
wasn’t always
like this. Or
maybe he was.
Again, the
marriage
history.
From:
AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve
Jones
Sent:
Thursday,
November 19,
2020 12:46 PM
To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
OT: this press
conference
I dont know
what happened
to that guy.
hopefully when
this is said
and done we go
the way of
canada on
electronic
voting. then
we put cameras
recording the
count tables.
Golden and no
need for
recounts or
weird people
like this team
of lunatics
having crazy
press
conferences. I
think the
media sent
their interns
instead of
reporters
On Thu, Nov
19, 2020 at
12:35 PM Adam
Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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