https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFqwqlDPhPE
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:00 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
"You are only paranoid if they aren't after you"
On 12/28/2020 10:56 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> Hell, 10 of every 9 people I meet have some kind of psychosis. If
> there are 200 people on this list, I bet over 220 of them have
> psychosis. I can count me in that.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 12/28/2020 10:48 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> 10 out of 153 people developed psychosis after having covid.....
>>
>> I wonder how many out of 153 covid-free people developed a mental
>> illness in 2020.
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2020 1:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Chuck postulated he had mental illness. Maybe he had Covid induced
>>> psychosis:
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/small-number-of-covid-patients-dev
>>> elop-severe-psychotic-symptoms/ar-BB1cigNp
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 12:07 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> I get so fed up with these after the fact "he was reported". Most of
>>> these cases there is nothing found or there was nothing they could
>>> have done. Morons say "well he should have been put on a watchlist"
>>> in the same breath that they want to defund the police and not let
>>> anyone's rights be stepped on. If "authorities" "kept an eye on"
>>> every person who is "reported" half of the country would be police
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:58 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.the-sun.com/news/2036056/nashville-bomb-anthony-quinn-wa
>>> rner-police-warned-rv/
>>>
>>> Sounds like a UK tabloid. Caveat emptor.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 11:22 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> Which media?
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2020 9:12 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> If you believe the media report:
>>>
>>> Warner wrote in the letter that he “intended to travel on
>>> Christmas Eve to spend a few weeks in the woods with his
>>> dogs,” the report said.
>>>
>>> The tech expert is believed by authorities to have previously
>>> had a relationship with Swing’s mother, according to the report.
>>>
>>> Warner reportedly went on to write to Swing, 29, that he was
>>> signing over a home to her — but gave her a vague warning of
>>> something out of the ordinary about the basement.
>>>
>>> “The attic has plywood and lighting, take a look,” the letter
>>> concluded, according to the outlet. “The basement is not
>>> normal, take a look. Woof woof Julio.”
>>>
>>> So what you find unusual is the plywood? Not spending a few
>>> weeks in the woods with his dogs? Not “woof woof Julio”?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:47 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> I think it all depends on how much plywood you have in the
>>> attic
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 10:40 AM Lewis Bergman
>>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I own a storage facility with a bunch of boats in it.
>>> Does that mean I believe in more aliens than most people
>>> since I have more boats in more garages. Or is it only
>>> the people that store the boats in those spaces that
>>> believe in aliens?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:27 AM James Howard
>>> <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I dunno…. I don’t believe there are any aliens in my
>>> garage.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Adam
>>> Moffett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> That checks out.
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2020 11:20 AM, James Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> You’re saying that people with garages with
>>> basements believe in aliens?
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of
>>> *Ken Hohhof
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 8:07 AM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> <af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> How many people on this list would have to make
>>> the same disclaimer if they gave someone their
>>> house?
>>>
>>> I remember a discussion not too long ago about
>>> people whose garages had basements.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
>>> *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:14 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> This is getting better and better. Dude
>>> supposedly believed in aliens and sent a weird
>>> letter to the 29 yo broad about his plywood attic
>>> and weird basement. This is the gift that keeps
>>> on giving
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof
>>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you want to believe DailyMail, he
>>> may have had a “relationship” with the 29
>>> year old woman’s mother. So you may be close.
>>>
>>> And a neighbor may have reported to the FBI a
>>> year ago that he was making bombs in his RV.
>>> And that his RV may have been spotted at the
>>> bombing site in the days prior as if he had
>>> been scouting the site.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf
>>> Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security
>>>
>>> He supposedly gave 2 houses to 2 women who
>>> didnt know him.
>>>
>>> This is it guys, they have the evidence
>>>
>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E
>>>
>>> Except the guy goes from chemtrails to
>>> missiles to direct energy weapons.
>>>
>>> This is gonna get super fun.
>>>
>>> Deep state psyop
>>>
>>> Even saw a guy point out - AN th ON y Q uinn
>>> WARN er
>>>
>>> Dudes, Q knows. 63 years ago Q genetically
>>> modified this super soldier silent cell to
>>> activate should the deep state try to subvert
>>> power from the people.
>>>
>>> I'm going to feed these people. I may even
>>> have to get on 4chan again.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:35 PM Chuck McCown
>>> via AF <af@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am guessing he gave the house to a
>>> daughter. Maybe she didn’t even know.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Ken
>>> Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most people have some level of mental
>>> illness after 2020.
>>>
>>> As for the specifics, which clue do
>>> you want to hang your hat on? AT&T?
>>> Lyrics to “Downtown”? Or deeding his
>>> house and his brother’s house to the
>>> mystery woman, who deeded the
>>> brother’s house back to the mother.
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020
>>> 6:11 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>> Group <af@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com
>>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center
>>> Security
>>>
>>> So, what was his deal other than
>>> mental illness?
>>>
>>> *From:*Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Sunday, December 27, 2020
>>> 4:13 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>> Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center
>>> Security
>>>
>>> "Google News - Anthony Quinn Warner
>>> confirmed by DNA test as Nashville
>>> Christmas bomber"
>>>
>>> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8
>>> IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 2:40 PM Chuck
>>> McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no idea how many monster
>>> generators FB has in Utah. Plus
>>> double redundant feeds from Rocky
>>> Mountain Power. Its own
>>> substation. Plus it has fiber
>>> from others that I did not put
>>> in. So who knows how many routes
>>> they have out of town. And this
>>> is just the first phase of four
>>> for that site. Even a Oklahoma
>>> sized anfo bomb would not be able
>>> to damage more than about 10% of
>>> the place.
>>>
>>> *From:*Robert
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Saturday, December 26,
>>> 2020 2:24 PM
>>>
>>> *To:*af@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center
>>> Security
>>>
>>> The first serious "data center" I
>>> got to tour in the 80's was run
>>> by GE and had power on either
>>> side of the racks from separate
>>> _Grids_ one side was Canadian
>>> and the other was the NY grid.
>>> They felt confident that it would
>>> take a CME to take that down and
>>> then inside the shielded building
>>> they had a GE power turbine for
>>> the off grid power. With a
>>> building full of fuel to power it
>>> for 22 days.. This was way before
>>> the Internet.
>>>
>>> On 12/26/20 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I seem to remember that in
>>> Chicago the telephone COs had
>>> redundant power feeds out
>>> opposite sides of the
>>> building to different
>>> substations. (plus battery
>>> and diesel backup) Fiber
>>> routes probably similar.
>>>
>>> *From:*AF
>>>
>>> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December
>>> 26, 2020 11:34 AM
>>> *To:* Matt Hoppes
>>>
>>> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net;
>>> AnimalFarm Microwave Users
>>> Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com
>>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data
>>> center Security
>>>
>>> It didn’t. One single
>>> isolated incident is not a
>>> coordinated attack on 100 or
>>> 1000 datacenters. This is the
>>> rude fart of an anarchist.
>>>
>>> And you watch how fast the
>>> network heals in Nashville...
>>>
>>> *From:*Matt Hoppes
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Saturday, December 26,
>>> 2020 10:31 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave
>>> Users Group
>>>
>>> *Cc:*ch...@go-mtc.com
>>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data
>>> center Security
>>>
>>> Except it just did.
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15
>>> PM, Chuck McCown via AF
>>> <af@af.afmug.com
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My opinion is this kind
>>> of thinking is total
>>> horseshit.
>>>
>>> FB alone has about 100
>>> data centers.
>>>
>>> The one I installed all
>>> their long haul routes to
>>> has 5 large cables
>>> running hundreds of miles
>>> radiating from the data
>>> center in all the ordinal
>>> compass points. Just
>>> knowing which gravel road
>>> out in the country has a
>>> FB cable and then cutting
>>> it, does not take them
>>> down. You will have to
>>> hit all the routes.
>>>
>>> Then the buildings itself
>>> is huge. Like a square
>>> mile huge. 100% poured
>>> reinforced concrete. Even
>>> if you had a rider truck
>>> full of anfo you would
>>> get shot at while driving
>>> through the perimeter
>>> fence and then you would
>>> just wipe out some
>>> administrative offices
>>> etc. Not even get close
>>> to where the servers are.
>>>
>>> And then do that 100
>>> other places at the same
>>> time?
>>>
>>> And then you only got FB.
>>> Google, Amazon...
>>>
>>> Never gonna happen.
>>>
>>> *From:*Matt Hoppes
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Saturday, December
>>> 26, 2020 9:58 AM
>>>
>>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave
>>> Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]
>>> Data center Security
>>>
>>> Yes. Fiber can be
>>> repaired. And then
>>> repaired again. And then
>>> repaired again. It all
>>> adds up down the route.
>>> Plus the data center is
>>> destroyed.
>>>
>>> While folks are
>>> concentrating on ground
>>> zero the fiber is being
>>> destroyed at multiple
>>> places down the road.
>>>
>>> Then with infrastructure
>>> destroyed a major attack
>>> of some sort takes place.
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2020, at
>>> 11:54 AM, Bill Prince
>>> <part15...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You don't need a
>>> terrorist to take out
>>> the satellites. One
>>> well-timed CME will
>>> do it all.
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 12/26/2020 8:27
>>> AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> At least the
>>> satellites are
>>> safe, we have
>>> Space Force.
>>>
>>> *From:*AF
>>>
>>> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>> *On Behalf Of
>>> *Matt Hoppes
>>> *Sent:* Saturday,
>>> December 26, 2020
>>> 10:18 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm
>>> Microwave Users
>>> Group
>>>
>>> mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re:
>>> [AFMUG] Data
>>> center Security
>>>
>>> Never thought
>>> about that. Yo
>>> get the data
>>> center back up.
>>> But your fibers
>>> all down. In 5
>>> places. But you
>>> only find out
>>> once you get one
>>> back together.
>>>
>>> Yeah. We’re safe
>>> because no one
>>> has done it. Not
>>> because we’re safe.
>>>
>>> On Dec 26,
>>> 2020, at
>>> 11:14 AM,
>>> Darin Steffl
>>>
>>> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've thought
>>> about how
>>> vulnerable
>>> the entire US
>>> power and
>>>
>>> communications grid
>>> is.
>>>
>>> It would be
>>> so easy to
>>> cut multiple
>>> long haul
>>> fibers, plant
>>> bombs at
>>> large power
>>> transmission
>>> lines and
>>> then sync it
>>> all together
>>> to explode,
>>> cut things at
>>> the same
>>> time. It
>>> could easily
>>> be done in
>>> rural areas
>>> only but
>>> still affect
>>> metros since
>>> they all feed
>>> from rural
>>> power and
>>> fiber lines.
>>>
>>> There's also
>>> no cameras or
>>> as many
>>> people
>>> monitoring
>>> things in the
>>> middle of
>>> nowhere. If
>>> this was done
>>> over multiple
>>> states and
>>> targeted
>>> multiple
>>> grids and
>>> fibers, you
>>> could almost
>>> knock out 90%
>>> of all power
>>> and
>>> communication.
>>> This
>>> would hurt
>>> more than any
>>> single
>>> location attack.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec
>>> 26, 2020,
>>> 9:54 AM Matt
>>> Hoppes
>>>
>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>
>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I
>>> hesitated
>>> on where
>>> to post
>>> this. Not
>>> that I
>>> think I’m
>>> giving
>>> anyone
>>> any ideas
>>> - but still.
>>>
>>> What
>>> happened
>>> in
>>> Nashville
>>> has
>>> actually
>>> been a
>>> concern
>>> of mine
>>> for some
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Look at
>>> 9/11.
>>> Huge loss
>>> of life
>>> yes. But
>>> that took
>>> a lot of
>>> effort
>>> and
>>> planning
>>> and
>>> getting
>>> through
>>> security
>>> and
>>> learning
>>> to
>>> basically
>>> fly a
>>> massive
>>> tin
>>> projectile.
>>>
>>> How much
>>> more
>>> damage
>>> could a
>>> small
>>> group do
>>> with 5 or
>>> 6 vans
>>> loaded
>>> with
>>>
>>> explosives in
>>> a
>>> coordinated
>>> attack on
>>> say: NYC,
>>> 401N
>>> Broad,
>>> Ashburn,
>>> St Louis,
>>> Chicago
>>> and San
>>> Jose?
>>>
>>> Throw in
>>> a few
>>> major CO
>>> switching
>>> offices
>>> in some
>>> major towns.
>>>
>>> You’ve
>>> caused
>>> mass
>>> disaster.
>>> Minimal
>>> planning.
>>> And now
>>> with 911
>>> services
>>> out and
>>> data
>>> crippled
>>> you could
>>> do
>>> something
>>> else even
>>> more major.
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