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-----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:15 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get you. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 1:00 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security "You are only paranoid if they aren't after you" On 12/28/2020 10:56 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Hell, 10 of every 9 people I meet have some kind of psychosis. If > there are 200 people on this list, I bet over 220 of them have > psychosis. I can count me in that. > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 12/28/2020 10:48 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> 10 out of 153 people developed psychosis after having covid..... >> >> I wonder how many out of 153 covid-free people developed a mental >> illness in 2020. >> >> >> On 12/28/2020 1:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Chuck postulated he had mental illness. Maybe he had Covid induced >>> psychosis: >>> >>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/small-number-of-covid-patients-dev >>> elop-severe-psychotic-symptoms/ar-BB1cigNp >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 12:07 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> I get so fed up with these after the fact "he was reported". Most of >>> these cases there is nothing found or there was nothing they could >>> have done. Morons say "well he should have been put on a watchlist" >>> in the same breath that they want to defund the police and not let >>> anyone's rights be stepped on. If "authorities" "kept an eye on" >>> every person who is "reported" half of the country would be police >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:58 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>> >>> This: >>> >>> >>> https://www.the-sun.com/news/2036056/nashville-bomb-anthony-quinn-wa >>> rner-police-warned-rv/ >>> >>> Sounds like a UK tabloid. Caveat emptor. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 11:22 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> Which media? >>> >>> bp >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 12/28/2020 9:12 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> If you believe the media report: >>> >>> Warner wrote in the letter that he “intended to travel on >>> Christmas Eve to spend a few weeks in the woods with his >>> dogs,” the report said. >>> >>> The tech expert is believed by authorities to have previously >>> had a relationship with Swing’s mother, according to the report. >>> >>> Warner reportedly went on to write to Swing, 29, that he was >>> signing over a home to her — but gave her a vague warning of >>> something out of the ordinary about the basement. >>> >>> “The attic has plywood and lighting, take a look,” the letter >>> concluded, according to the outlet. “The basement is not >>> normal, take a look. Woof woof Julio.” >>> >>> So what you find unusual is the plywood? Not spending a few >>> weeks in the woods with his dogs? Not “woof woof Julio”? >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:47 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> I think it all depends on how much plywood you have in the >>> attic >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 10:40 AM Lewis Bergman >>> <lewis.berg...@gmail.com <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I own a storage facility with a bunch of boats in it. >>> Does that mean I believe in more aliens than most people >>> since I have more boats in more garages. Or is it only >>> the people that store the boats in those spaces that >>> believe in aliens? >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:27 AM James Howard >>> <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote: >>> >>> I dunno…. I don’t believe there are any aliens in my >>> garage. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Adam >>> Moffett >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:23 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> That checks out. >>> >>> On 12/28/2020 11:20 AM, James Howard wrote: >>> >>> You’re saying that people with garages with >>> basements believe in aliens? >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of >>> *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 8:07 AM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> <af@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> How many people on this list would have to make >>> the same disclaimer if they gave someone their >>> house? >>> >>> I remember a discussion not too long ago about >>> people whose garages had basements. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of >>> *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:14 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> This is getting better and better. Dude >>> supposedly believed in aliens and sent a weird >>> letter to the 29 yo broad about his plywood attic >>> and weird basement. This is the gift that keeps >>> on giving >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof >>> <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, if you want to believe DailyMail, he >>> may have had a “relationship” with the 29 >>> year old woman’s mother. So you may be close. >>> >>> And a neighbor may have reported to the FBI a >>> year ago that he was making bombs in his RV. >>> And that his RV may have been spotted at the >>> bombing site in the days prior as if he had >>> been scouting the site. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf >>> Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:51 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security >>> >>> He supposedly gave 2 houses to 2 women who >>> didnt know him. >>> >>> This is it guys, they have the evidence >>> >>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E >>> >>> Except the guy goes from chemtrails to >>> missiles to direct energy weapons. >>> >>> This is gonna get super fun. >>> >>> Deep state psyop >>> >>> Even saw a guy point out - AN th ON y Q uinn >>> WARN er >>> >>> Dudes, Q knows. 63 years ago Q genetically >>> modified this super soldier silent cell to >>> activate should the deep state try to subvert >>> power from the people. >>> >>> I'm going to feed these people. I may even >>> have to get on 4chan again. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:35 PM Chuck McCown >>> via AF <af@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I am guessing he gave the house to a >>> daughter. Maybe she didn’t even know. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Ken >>> Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com >>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Most people have some level of mental >>> illness after 2020. >>> >>> As for the specifics, which clue do >>> you want to hang your hat on? AT&T? >>> Lyrics to “Downtown”? Or deeding his >>> house and his brother’s house to the >>> mystery woman, who deeded the >>> brother’s house back to the mother. >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On >>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 >>> 6:11 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users >>> Group <af@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com >>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center >>> Security >>> >>> So, what was his deal other than >>> mental illness? >>> >>> *From:*Jaime Solorza >>> >>> *Sent:*Sunday, December 27, 2020 >>> 4:13 PM >>> >>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users >>> Group >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center >>> Security >>> >>> "Google News - Anthony Quinn Warner >>> confirmed by DNA test as Nashville >>> Christmas bomber" >>> >>> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8 >>> IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 2:40 PM Chuck >>> McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I have no idea how many monster >>> generators FB has in Utah. Plus >>> double redundant feeds from Rocky >>> Mountain Power. Its own >>> substation. Plus it has fiber >>> from others that I did not put >>> in. So who knows how many routes >>> they have out of town. And this >>> is just the first phase of four >>> for that site. Even a Oklahoma >>> sized anfo bomb would not be able >>> to damage more than about 10% of >>> the place. >>> >>> *From:*Robert >>> >>> *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, >>> 2020 2:24 PM >>> >>> *To:*af@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data center >>> Security >>> >>> The first serious "data center" I >>> got to tour in the 80's was run >>> by GE and had power on either >>> side of the racks from separate >>> _Grids_ one side was Canadian >>> and the other was the NY grid. >>> They felt confident that it would >>> take a CME to take that down and >>> then inside the shielded building >>> they had a GE power turbine for >>> the off grid power. With a >>> building full of fuel to power it >>> for 22 days.. This was way before >>> the Internet. >>> >>> On 12/26/20 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof >>> wrote: >>> >>> I seem to remember that in >>> Chicago the telephone COs had >>> redundant power feeds out >>> opposite sides of the >>> building to different >>> substations. (plus battery >>> and diesel backup) Fiber >>> routes probably similar. >>> >>> *From:*AF >>> >>> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Saturday, December >>> 26, 2020 11:34 AM >>> *To:* Matt Hoppes >>> >>> mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net; >>> AnimalFarm Microwave Users >>> Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com >>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data >>> center Security >>> >>> It didn’t. One single >>> isolated incident is not a >>> coordinated attack on 100 or >>> 1000 datacenters. This is the >>> rude fart of an anarchist. >>> >>> And you watch how fast the >>> network heals in Nashville... >>> >>> *From:*Matt Hoppes >>> >>> *Sent:*Saturday, December 26, >>> 2020 10:31 AM >>> >>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave >>> Users Group >>> >>> *Cc:*ch...@go-mtc.com >>> <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Data >>> center Security >>> >>> Except it just did. >>> >>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 >>> PM, Chuck McCown via AF >>> <af@af.afmug.com >>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> My opinion is this kind >>> of thinking is total >>> horseshit. >>> >>> FB alone has about 100 >>> data centers. >>> >>> The one I installed all >>> their long haul routes to >>> has 5 large cables >>> running hundreds of miles >>> radiating from the data >>> center in all the ordinal >>> compass points. Just >>> knowing which gravel road >>> out in the country has a >>> FB cable and then cutting >>> it, does not take them >>> down. You will have to >>> hit all the routes. >>> >>> Then the buildings itself >>> is huge. Like a square >>> mile huge. 100% poured >>> reinforced concrete. Even >>> if you had a rider truck >>> full of anfo you would >>> get shot at while driving >>> through the perimeter >>> fence and then you would >>> just wipe out some >>> administrative offices >>> etc. Not even get close >>> to where the servers are. >>> >>> And then do that 100 >>> other places at the same >>> time? >>> >>> And then you only got FB. >>> Google, Amazon... >>> >>> Never gonna happen. >>> >>> *From:*Matt Hoppes >>> >>> *Sent:*Saturday, December >>> 26, 2020 9:58 AM >>> >>> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave >>> Users Group >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] >>> Data center Security >>> >>> Yes. Fiber can be >>> repaired. And then >>> repaired again. And then >>> repaired again. It all >>> adds up down the route. >>> Plus the data center is >>> destroyed. >>> >>> While folks are >>> concentrating on ground >>> zero the fiber is being >>> destroyed at multiple >>> places down the road. >>> >>> Then with infrastructure >>> destroyed a major attack >>> of some sort takes place. >>> >>> On Dec 26, 2020, at >>> 11:54 AM, Bill Prince >>> <part15...@gmail.com >>> >>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> You don't need a >>> terrorist to take out >>> the satellites. One >>> well-timed CME will >>> do it all. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 12/26/2020 8:27 >>> AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> At least the >>> satellites are >>> safe, we have >>> Space Force. >>> >>> *From:*AF >>> >>> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com >>> *On Behalf Of >>> *Matt Hoppes >>> *Sent:* Saturday, >>> December 26, 2020 >>> 10:18 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm >>> Microwave Users >>> Group >>> >>> mailto:af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: >>> [AFMUG] Data >>> center Security >>> >>> Never thought >>> about that. Yo >>> get the data >>> center back up. >>> But your fibers >>> all down. In 5 >>> places. But you >>> only find out >>> once you get one >>> back together. >>> >>> Yeah. We’re safe >>> because no one >>> has done it. Not >>> because we’re safe. >>> >>> On Dec 26, >>> 2020, at >>> 11:14 AM, >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com >>> >>> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I've thought >>> about how >>> vulnerable >>> the entire US >>> power and >>> >>> communications grid >>> is. >>> >>> It would be >>> so easy to >>> cut multiple >>> long haul >>> fibers, plant >>> bombs at >>> large power >>> transmission >>> lines and >>> then sync it >>> all together >>> to explode, >>> cut things at >>> the same >>> time. It >>> could easily >>> be done in >>> rural areas >>> only but >>> still affect >>> metros since >>> they all feed >>> from rural >>> power and >>> fiber lines. >>> >>> There's also >>> no cameras or >>> as many >>> people >>> monitoring >>> things in the >>> middle of >>> nowhere. If >>> this was done >>> over multiple >>> states and >>> targeted >>> multiple >>> grids and >>> fibers, you >>> could almost >>> knock out 90% >>> of all power >>> and >>> communication. >>> This >>> would hurt >>> more than any >>> single >>> location attack. >>> >>> On Sat, Dec >>> 26, 2020, >>> 9:54 AM Matt >>> Hoppes >>> >>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >>> >>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I >>> hesitated >>> on where >>> to post >>> this. Not >>> that I >>> think I’m >>> giving >>> anyone >>> any ideas >>> - but still. >>> >>> What >>> happened >>> in >>> Nashville >>> has >>> actually >>> been a >>> concern >>> of mine >>> for some >>> time. >>> >>> Look at >>> 9/11. >>> Huge loss >>> of life >>> yes. 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