That's a joint that's best burned to the ground and the soil salted for good measure, I dont think you'd want to go poking around Neverland following clues.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 4:13 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > I had a customer murder-suicide in 2018. According to news reports he > shot his wife with a 45 caliber handgun, went out to the barn and shot the > horses, set the barns on fire, went back in the house and set it on fire, > then laid down in bed next to his wife and shot himself. > > > > I assumed the property would be “tainted” as you say, but in 2019 someone > bought it for $76K and flipped it within 2 months for $103K, according to > Zillow. 6 acres, maybe somebody bought it for the land, although that > would be around twice the value of farmland here, and you’d have to clear > the trees. > > > > Hey, you could have bought Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch for $22 > million. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 3:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > i assume i will be turned away at airports > > When I was really young I sent a letter that could maybe be taken as a > threat to president clinton, had I done that today, oh boy. > > > > I can understand the apprehension people have with "5g". I have > apprehension with that much energy at ground level everywhere. sure it is > absorbed by the air and skin, but every 800 feet is a bit much. like a pin > prick, one doesnt hurt you but by the 500th one you may have an issue. I > think the biggest issue is with carbon footprint and energy consumption. > How much plastic housing and PCB waste is there going to be. I wonder if > some geek has sat down and calculated out the aggregate energy consumption > if the entirety were deployed. Even if its "green" energy like > solar/wind/etc, there is alot of heat going to be dissipated. That leads me > to another curiosity, if solar, is there even an environmental impact from > the heat generated by the electronics? The energy would have been there > regardless. > > > > My concerns arent elevated to the level of blowing up buildings (there are > so many other valid reasons to do that) But its enough to do random weird > stuff like give people things they didnt ask for with cryptic messages. > > > > On that note, I wonder if this broad he gave those houses to is on the > hook for the tax liability, they say the two homes were worth around 400k. > Maybe he didnt like her mom at all and knows that shes on the hook for the > current market value tax at time of the transfer and now the houses are > tainted to the point she may have to sell them for less than the tax > burden. Thats the type of spite I can get behind, > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 2:21 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: > > BTW, Steve, you still on the watch list...? [image: Winking smile] > > > > *From:* Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 11:06 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > I get so fed up with these after the fact "he was reported". Most of these > cases there is nothing found or there was nothing they could have done. > Morons say "well he should have been put on a watchlist" in the same breath > that they want to defund the police and not let anyone's rights be stepped > on. If "authorities" "kept an eye on" every person who is "reported" half > of the country would be police > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:58 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > This: > > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/2036056/nashville-bomb-anthony-quinn-warner-police-warned-rv/ > > > > Sounds like a UK tabloid. Caveat emptor. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 11:22 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > Which media? > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 12/28/2020 9:12 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > If you believe the media report: > > > > Warner wrote in the letter that he “intended to travel on Christmas Eve to > spend a few weeks in the woods with his dogs,” the report said. > > The tech expert is believed by authorities to have previously had a > relationship with Swing’s mother, according to the report. > > Warner reportedly went on to write to Swing, 29, that he was signing over > a home to her — but gave her a vague warning of something out of the > ordinary about the basement. > > “The attic has plywood and lighting, take a look,” the letter concluded, > according to the outlet. “The basement is not normal, take a look. Woof > woof Julio.” > > So what you find unusual is the plywood? Not spending a few weeks in the > woods with his dogs? Not “woof woof Julio”? > > > > > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:47 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com > <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > I think it all depends on how much plywood you have in the attic > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 10:40 AM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I own a storage facility with a bunch of boats in it. Does that mean I > believe in more aliens than most people since I have more boats in more > garages. Or is it only the people that store the boats in those spaces that > believe in aliens? > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:27 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote: > > I dunno…. I don’t believe there are any aliens in my garage. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 10:23 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > That checks out. > > On 12/28/2020 11:20 AM, James Howard wrote: > > You’re saying that people with garages with basements believe in aliens? > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, December 28, 2020 8:07 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com > <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > How many people on this list would have to make the same disclaimer if > they gave someone their house? > > > > I remember a discussion not too long ago about people whose garages had > basements. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > This is getting better and better. Dude supposedly believed in aliens and > sent a weird letter to the 29 yo broad about his plywood attic and weird > basement. This is the gift that keeps on giving > > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > Well, if you want to believe DailyMail, he may have had a “relationship” > with the 29 year old woman’s mother. So you may be close. > > > > And a neighbor may have reported to the FBI a year ago that he was making > bombs in his RV. And that his RV may have been spotted at the bombing site > in the days prior as if he had been scouting the site. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:51 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > He supposedly gave 2 houses to 2 women who didnt know him. > > This is it guys, they have the evidence > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhDySGyI9E > > Except the guy goes from chemtrails to missiles to direct energy weapons. > > This is gonna get super fun. > > Deep state psyop > > Even saw a guy point out - AN th ON y Q uinn WARN er > > Dudes, Q knows. 63 years ago Q genetically modified this super soldier > silent cell to activate should the deep state try to subvert power from the > people. > > > > I'm going to feed these people. I may even have to get on 4chan again. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 6:35 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > I am guessing he gave the house to a daughter. Maybe she didn’t even know. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 27, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > > > Most people have some level of mental illness after 2020. > > > > As for the specifics, which clue do you want to hang your hat on? AT&T? > Lyrics to “Downtown”? Or deeding his house and his brother’s house to the > mystery woman, who deeded the brother’s house back to the mother. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:11 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > So, what was his deal other than mental illness? > > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > > *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:13 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > "Google News - Anthony Quinn Warner confirmed by DNA test as Nashville > Christmas bomber" > https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEHUCEHOSLLivFnb4b9F354UqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowhK-LAjD4ySww69W0BQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen > > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 2:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > I have no idea how many monster generators FB has in Utah. Plus double > redundant feeds from Rocky Mountain Power. Its own substation. Plus it > has fiber from others that I did not put in. So who knows how many routes > they have out of town. And this is just the first phase of four for that > site. Even a Oklahoma sized anfo bomb would not be able to damage more > than about 10% of the place. > > > > *From:* Robert > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:24 PM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > The first serious "data center" I got to tour in the 80's was run by GE > and had power on either side of the racks from separate _Grids_ one side > was Canadian and the other was the NY grid. They felt confident that it > would take a CME to take that down and then inside the shielded building > they had a GE power turbine for the off grid power. With a building full > of fuel to power it for 22 days.. This was way before the Internet. > > On 12/26/20 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I seem to remember that in Chicago the telephone COs had redundant power > feeds out opposite sides of the building to different substations. (plus > battery and diesel backup) Fiber routes probably similar. > > > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:34 AM > *To:* Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > mailto:af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com> > *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > It didn’t. One single isolated incident is not a coordinated attack on > 100 or 1000 datacenters. This is the rude fart of an anarchist. > > And you watch how fast the network heals in Nashville... > > > > *From:* Matt Hoppes > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:31 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > Except it just did. > > > > On Dec 26, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > > > My opinion is this kind of thinking is total horseshit. > > > > FB alone has about 100 data centers. > > > > The one I installed all their long haul routes to has 5 large cables > running hundreds of miles radiating from the data center in all the ordinal > compass points. Just knowing which gravel road out in the country has a FB > cable and then cutting it, does not take them down. You will have to hit > all the routes. > > > > Then the buildings itself is huge. Like a square mile huge. 100% poured > reinforced concrete. Even if you had a rider truck full of anfo you would > get shot at while driving through the perimeter fence and then you would > just wipe out some administrative offices etc. Not even get close to where > the servers are. > > > > And then do that 100 other places at the same time? > > And then you only got FB. Google, Amazon... > > > > Never gonna happen. > > > > > > > > *From:* Matt Hoppes > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:58 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > Yes. Fiber can be repaired. And then repaired again. And then repaired > again. It all adds up down the route. Plus the data center is destroyed. > > > > While folks are concentrating on ground zero the fiber is being destroyed > at multiple places down the road. > > > > Then with infrastructure destroyed a major attack of some sort takes > place. > > > > On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You don't need a terrorist to take out the satellites. One well-timed CME > will do it all. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > On 12/26/2020 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > At least the satellites are safe, we have Space Force. > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On > Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes > *Sent:* Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:18 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com > <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center Security > > > > Never thought about that. Yo get the data center back up. But your fibers > all down. In 5 places. But you only find out once you get one back > together. > > > > Yeah. We’re safe because no one has done it. Not because we’re safe. > > > > On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > > > > I've thought about how vulnerable the entire US power and communications > grid is. > > > > It would be so easy to cut multiple long haul fibers, plant bombs at large > power transmission lines and then sync it all together to explode, cut > things at the same time. It could easily be done in rural areas only but > still affect metros since they all feed from rural power and fiber lines. > > > > There's also no cameras or as many people monitoring things in the middle > of nowhere. If this was done over multiple states and targeted multiple > grids and fibers, you could almost knock out 90% of all power and > communication. This would hurt more than any single location attack. > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 AM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > > I hesitated on where to post this. Not that I think I’m giving anyone any > ideas - but still. > > What happened in Nashville has actually been a concern of mine for some > time. > > Look at 9/11. Huge loss of life yes. But that took a lot of effort and > planning and getting through security and learning to basically fly a > massive tin projectile. > > How much more damage could a small group do with 5 or 6 vans loaded with > explosives in a coordinated attack on say: NYC, 401N Broad, Ashburn, St > Louis, Chicago and San Jose? > > Throw in a few major CO switching offices in some major towns. > > You’ve caused mass disaster. Minimal planning. 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