Allows two, four ports SFP+ modules Tushar
> On Dec 31, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote: > > Has anyone tried Maxwave from Baltic networks? > > https://www.balticnetworks.com/manufacturers/maxxwave/maxxwave-routermaxx-vengeance-8-port-gigabit-core-i7-i7-8700k-hexa-core-router > > They have bunch of cards options which can be added > > > Tushar > > >>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >>> >> >> Welp replacing it with a brand new 1072 with new transceivers etc lasted >> about a week before it rebooted itself. >> >> Mikrotik basically said RMA it or it may be faulty hardware. Well I ruled >> that out with a unit that came from the factory with a pretty recent >> firmware. >> >> Mikrotik if you read this. Get off your ass and lab this up. If you are >> happy dealing with residential equipment for the rest of your lives keep >> doing what you are doing. If you want to move up into the enterprise level >> you better get on top of this. >> >> >> >> STEVEN KENNEY >> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY >> A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON >> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >> W: www.wavedirect.net >> >> From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> >> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:20:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >> >> Fair enough. But, I have quad port x710's in many ESXi hosts (running CHR >> and otherwise) - and they are completely fine. >> >>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 8:58 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >>> I've been warned away from using the quad cards and speaking from >>> experience I myself have used quad ethernet cards with x86 mikrotiks in the >>> past with little success. All sorts of funky issues. >>> >>> I understand clearly we can use vlans and such in ESXI but I'm talking the >>> pure amount of traffic I'll need will be beyond the demands the bus on the >>> motherboard will be able to handle. I guess I really need to look at the >>> specs. I know PCI Express V6 can do over 100Gbps. But I'll prob use a >>> couple off lease Dells in its own routing cluster. >>> >>> >>> >>> STEVEN KENNEY >>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY >>> A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON >>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>> >>> From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> >>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 4:03:21 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>> >>> The x710 has 4 SFP+ ports. You don't necessarily need dedicated physical >>> interfaces for each router either. Our CHR boxes have a single x710 and >>> several instances of CHR "sharing" the physical interfaces. We use ESXi >>> with a virtual switch trunking VLANs to the CHR instances. >>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:43 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >>>> Right those are 2x though for a total of 4 ports. I need more than that, >>>> especially if I want to run more than one router on these. >>>> >>>> Might even consider to see if there is any support for 40Gbps cards or >>>> whether a server's bus can handle those speeds with a card. I can >>>> aggregate different devices on a switch instead. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> STEVEN KENNEY >>>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY >>>> A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON >>>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>>> >>>> From: "Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 3:34:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>> >>>> 2x Intel x710. >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> I've considered this too as a temporary measure because I can get some >>>>> off lease well maintained Dell servers for peanuts. Problem is finding >>>>> the right cards when you need 8 sfp+ ports. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> STEVEN KENNEY >>>>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY >>>>> A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON >>>>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>>>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>>>> >>>>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> >>>>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:41:53 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>> >>>>> We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog. >>>>> Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze >>>>> and require a reboot. >>>>> >>>>> We are going chr route. 1072 is junk. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hate to say it, but worked. Keep in mind that these units that we have >>>>>> had this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of warranty >>>>>> anyways. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP >>>>>> Certified >>>>>> >>>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>>>>> >>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Baird >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Get a new one. That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went away. >>>>>> Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that >>>>>> eventually causes them to do this. No matter of fiddling fixes it, we >>>>>> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since. We have >>>>>> 1072s running 15gig inbound without issues. So, while I do attest that >>>>>> this is a MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know >>>>>> where it is unless the manufacture can tell us. So far they are tight >>>>>> lipped. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP >>>>>> Certified >>>>>> >>>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>>>>> >>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>>>> >>>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steven Kenney >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM >>>>>> To: af <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Their support is behaving the same way exactly. They told me to take >>>>>> the watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all >>>>>> my customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night >>>>>> while I rush to log into it with a serial cable. The absurdity of it. >>>>>> Luckily I told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I >>>>>> log all the serial output of all my switches and routers. But even >>>>>> though I told them that a couple times they still requested I plug in a >>>>>> serial cable and wait for it to freeze. So I'm like .. hellooo there is >>>>>> a serial cable plugged in at all times! I told him there is no output. >>>>>> It just reboots. I even humored him and turned the watchdog off and we >>>>>> had a reboot on the weekend while the cable was plugged in and the >>>>>> console was logged in. I even had logging set to echo for a lot of >>>>>> things and nothing.. just a hard freeze. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up to >>>>>> the crash at all. Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo. >>>>>> They need to get their shit together. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> STEVEN KENNEY >>>>>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | >>>>>> Leamington ON >>>>>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>>>>> W: >>>>>> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=www.wavedirect.net&umid=D7E8655E-B6F3-F705-88EA-2A08303811DF&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a20d49e3e6a4f958e127c88b05686fb87748d1dd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being >>>>>> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or >>>>>> 100% CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, >>>>>> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after >>>>>> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection >>>>>> tracking. Not fun. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly >>>>>> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) >>>>>> or to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the >>>>>> problem or nature of the fix). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years. Until this year and the >>>>>> 1072's. Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's. >>>>>> Some more than others. Threads in the forum all discuss the same >>>>>> problem exactly. Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need >>>>>> connection tracking on one particular router. I've adjusted everything >>>>>> I could. Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc. Happens >>>>>> randomly with low levels of traffic, high levels of traffic, sometimes >>>>>> a couple times a day, sometimes weeks. No DDOS evidence at all from >>>>>> upstream routers. Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts. >>>>>> I graph everything about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or >>>>>> anything abnormal happening before the crash. Plenty of memory, disk >>>>>> space, CPU etc. Replaces all the trannies, power cables and such. >>>>>> Not running BGP only OSPF on the one that is giving me the most trouble. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and >>>>>> set it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and >>>>>> nothing. A hard freeze. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Then there is Mikrotik support... I've never needed their support >>>>>> before until now. So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm >>>>>> getting from them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the >>>>>> hardware and they are intentionally not being helpful. It is pretty >>>>>> clear to see with all the people reporting this issue that there IS an >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on >>>>>> the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an >>>>>> enterprise level system. Juniper most likely. Shame because they are >>>>>> just about keeping up with the demands with their hardware. Getting >>>>>> closer to 100Gbps etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think >>>>>> we've outgrew them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it >>>>>> comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot. I >>>>>> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor >>>>>> warranties. I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone else encounter this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> STEVEN KENNEY >>>>>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | >>>>>> Leamington ON >>>>>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>>>>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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