I see there's a 3-4 year old thread on the Mikrotik forum about this, some 
people talk about the CPU being overclocked from 1000 to 1200 MHz, is this a 
thing?  Later in the thread it is implied that they come this way from the 
factory.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Trey Scarborough
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 11:50 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations

I really haven't seen these issues. I would say its more likely if you don't 
beat them and expect them to do more than they can they will work for you well. 
If you try to beat them in to submission they will just fall over and play dead.

On 12/21/2020 10:36 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> Reading this thread is like listening to somebody in an abusive relationship: 
> "... if I treat him right, he won't hit me. The problem is just that I can't 
> figure out that sets him off..."
>   
> You know what the solution to that problem is.
>
> Jared
>   
>   
>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020
> From: "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being 
> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100% 
> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, 
> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after 
> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection 
> tracking. Not fun.
>   
> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly recommending 
> to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or to upgrade 
> firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem or nature of 
> the fix).
>   
> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another...
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney 
> <st...@wavedirect.org[mailto:st...@wavedirect.org]> wrote:
>
> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years.  Until this year and the 
> 1072's.  Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's.  Some 
> more than others.  Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem exactly. 
>  Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection tracking on one 
> particular router.  I've adjusted everything I could.  Firmware and board 
> firmware all up to date etc.  Happens randomly with low levels of traffic,  
> high levels of traffic,  sometimes a couple times a day,  sometimes weeks.  
> No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers.  Configs checked and rechecked 
> by third party experts.  I graph everything about the Mikrotik and there are 
> no clues or anything abnormal happening before the crash.  Plenty of memory, 
> disk space,  CPU etc.    Replaces all the trannies, power cables and such.  
> Not running BGP only OSPF on the one that is giving me the most trouble.
>   
> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and set it 
> to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and nothing.  A 
> hard freeze.
>   
> Then there is Mikrotik support...  I've never needed their support before 
> until now.  So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm getting from 
> them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware and they 
> are intentionally not being helpful.  It is pretty clear to see with all the 
> people reporting this issue that there IS an issue.
>   
> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik on the 
> newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an enterprise level 
> system.  Juniper most likely.  Shame because they are just about keeping up 
> with the demands with their hardware.  Getting closer to 100Gbps etc and ROS7 
> ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew them.
>   
> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when it comes 
> to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot.  I think they 
> know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor warranties.  
> I've heard rumors of bad batches of 1072's.
>   
> Anyone else encounter this?
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