it doesnt have to, all you have to do is accept that butter is a primary food group and kale has no business on a plate. Fish Food is for fish, not people. That truly is the only way to move forward. That and not using UBNT
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:12 PM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com> wrote: > Aaaanddd it just keeps going. > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:07 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You can call Godwin's law if you want to, but I am going to draw a >> certain parallel with history: >> >> A lot of people in Germany were convinced in their heart of hearts that >> certain groups of people were destroying their country: Jews, Communists, >> Slavs, Gypsies, etc. >> >> A lot of people in this country are now convinced in their heart of >> hearts that certain groups of people are destroying their country: >> pedophiles, communists, "elites", the gay agenda, Hispanic migrants, etc. >> >> The parallel is that they were utterly, factually wrong in both cases, >> but in both cases they were so sure of their correctness that they were >> willing to take drastic action. As long as people cling to their >> alternative set of facts the logical conclusion will be that they have to >> take action to stop the evil pedophile, communist, etc people who are >> destroying their country. >> >> You're thinking they've blown off steam and it's over, and I hope you're >> right, but I think it's just starting. >> >> >> On 1/7/2021 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> >> So, since I have the bully-pulpit I will unfairly fire a final shot and >> then obey my own Lent proclamation. >> >> My thoughts behind my post yesterday were along these lines: >> We have had hundreds if not thousands of protests in DC. >> Pretty big one in 1812 that burned down the Capitol building... >> Politics have protests. >> 1968 was another banner year. Lots of folks killed that year. >> >> You and I obviously feel differently about an attack on the democracy. >> >> To me, this was a bunch of rednecks trying to occupy a federal building >> like the Bundys did in Oregon. Blowing off steam. The capitol building >> is a public place. If you behave yourself you normally have pretty much >> free run of the place as a visitor. >> >> Surprised the cops didn’t shoot more of them but still, political >> gatherings and protests are part of our rights to assemble. We want the >> cops to deescalate. I think they held themselves in check pretty well >> yesterday. >> >> In my opinion it was not a “literal attack on the heart of our democracy” >> because there was NO WAY it could have succeeded. But half the news media >> tried to make the case that it was. >> >> The worst thing they could have done was to delay a pro-forma procedure. >> And they delayed it. Even if they had occupied the capitol, the lawmakers >> would have convened somewhere else and done their job. If they had killed >> all the lawmakers, there is a procedure for the states to send new ones. >> >> We have a pretty self healing system here. Stand back and let them spend >> their pent up anger. Not helping much that POTUS enabled/encouraged it >> but, hey, he is gone. His legacy is crap, this just made it more crap. >> He will become a worldwide pariah. That will amuse me. >> >> So while you see one thing, I see a different thing. I see folks that >> get themselves worked up by 4chan and Qanon and Fox and Rush. Folks >> itching for a fight. Folks that never learned how to get along with >> others. So the sharks and jets had a rumble. Now it is over. >> >> But I stand by my metric of counting the magnitude of a riot. People >> times time + damage caused. Who cares why they were rioting, these things >> are measurable. Science B*tch. >> >> >> >> *From:* Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:35 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >> >> I shouldn't have used "BS". >> >> As others have pointed out, one was a literal attack on the heart of our >> democracy, encouraged and incited (IMHO) by the president of our country. >> Not much can come close to that. You could burn all of Portland and it >> wouldn't come close. Then again I care a lot more about our democracy then >> I care about Portland. >> >> Just say what the rules re OT politics are. We will follow them. >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, >>> number or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and >>> compare the two by the numbers. >>> >>> Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” to >>> simple counting of participants times time. >>> >>> But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . >>> >>> Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. >>> My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started far >>> earlier. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>> >>> Chuck, >>> >>> I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The >>> DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and >>> Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not >>> expect it to start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and >>> dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't >>> have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but >>> countering it is not. We either allow political discussions, which I'm >>> fine with, or we make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best >>> option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it >>> up. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to >>>> remain civil to do so. >>>> >>>> The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland >>>> and Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. >>>> >>>> Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. >>>> >>>> No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. >>>> >>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>> >>>> youre no fun dad >>>> >>>> Lent? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch >>>>> of F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>> >>>>> That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no >>>>> so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, >>>>> no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not >>>>> outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their >>>>> consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems >>>>> to be very little that can be done to fix it. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how >>>>>> I take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is even >>>>>> more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political >>>>>> agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very few on >>>>>> either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. >>>>>> I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not >>>>>> reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. I >>>>>> honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. >>>>>> Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and >>>>>> Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of >>>>>> truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so >>>>>> thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. Stop >>>>>> being a fool. >>>>>> >>>>>> The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard >>>>>> enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> an election that is not conducted according to law is not an >>>>>> election. it's a coup. >>>>>> Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats >>>>>> every voter the same, it's not an "election". >>>>>> Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... >>>>>> that is intolerable. >>>>>> >>>>>> hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth >>>>>> >>>>>> Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a >>>>>> commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. >>>>>> >>>>>> All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along >>>>>> and only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to >>>>>> come warn us -- saw it or believed in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: >>>>>> >>>>>> “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that >>>>>> the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not >>>>>> to >>>>>> inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to >>>>>> reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are >>>>>> being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to >>>>>> repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of >>>>>> probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil >>>>>> oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even >>>>>> destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if >>>>>> you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended >>>>>> to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple >>>>>> >>>>>> You arrogant asses, you've killed us! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev >>>>>>>> predicted it... Trump enabled it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Go ahead and get off this list >>>>>>>> Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... >>>>>>>> This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump >>>>>>>> said it was going to be wild ... >>>>>>>> So fuck them to hell. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell >>>>>>>>> it, unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes >>>>>>>>> today and >>>>>>>>> historically >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WTF...third world country tactics... >>>>>>>>>> Insurrection... >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Carl Peterson >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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