I think lower. You want to pay less to feel bad, more to feel good 8 would think.
Miller lite is american, it would be third, but is my beer of choice since it's at the beer store 2 blocks down. It has the superior aluminum bottle. Its 18 oz instead of 12, so calculations can get off since a six pack is nine beers, but they sell them in a nine pack so you dont realize you're drinking 13.5 beers in a sitting. Probably psychology behind that math. American trickery and all. It's got a pretty low dollar to misery ratio though, so technically it might be superior to the other two on that scale. Sapporo 10$ per 6 12 oz bottles Heineken 9$ per 1 12 oz bottles Lite 11 dollars per 9 18 oz aluminum bottles. On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 2:19 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > When calculating the cost of a hangover, is a higher or lower dollar to > misery ratio more desirable? > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:02 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I dont care what anyone says, sapporo is superior to most everything. >> Heineken takes a close second. using the math, i can drink 6 heinekens and >> 6 sapporo in the same sitting and will not be able to differentiate which >> cause the hangover. but that is a 6 in 12 probability that it was either >> one or the other. Pricing between the two is similar, so it would be hard >> to nail down the ounce cost per hour of hangover to any reliable number. >> All I know is that if it had been tequila I drank 12 of I would have either >> had a fight or a fat girl. hangovers cant get pregnant, so the cost per >> ounce in regard to the overall risk I would say is much higher with >> tequila. An 18 year hangover. >> >> That being said, 15 years in and I still cant describe fresnel in laymens >> terms clearly enough for a non geek to understand >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:55 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> So, since I have the bully-pulpit I will unfairly fire a final shot and >>> then obey my own Lent proclamation. >>> >>> My thoughts behind my post yesterday were along these lines: >>> We have had hundreds if not thousands of protests in DC. >>> Pretty big one in 1812 that burned down the Capitol building... >>> Politics have protests. >>> 1968 was another banner year. Lots of folks killed that year. >>> >>> You and I obviously feel differently about an attack on the democracy. >>> >>> To me, this was a bunch of rednecks trying to occupy a federal building >>> like the Bundys did in Oregon. Blowing off steam. The capitol building >>> is a public place. If you behave yourself you normally have pretty much >>> free run of the place as a visitor. >>> >>> Surprised the cops didn’t shoot more of them but still, political >>> gatherings and protests are part of our rights to assemble. We want the >>> cops to deescalate. I think they held themselves in check pretty well >>> yesterday. >>> >>> In my opinion it was not a “literal attack on the heart of our >>> democracy” because there was NO WAY it could have succeeded. But half the >>> news media tried to make the case that it was. >>> >>> The worst thing they could have done was to delay a pro-forma >>> procedure. And they delayed it. Even if they had occupied the capitol, >>> the lawmakers would have convened somewhere else and done their job. If >>> they had killed all the lawmakers, there is a procedure for the states to >>> send new ones. >>> >>> We have a pretty self healing system here. Stand back and let them >>> spend their pent up anger. Not helping much that POTUS enabled/encouraged >>> it but, hey, he is gone. His legacy is crap, this just made it more >>> crap. He will become a worldwide pariah. That will amuse me. >>> >>> So while you see one thing, I see a different thing. I see folks that >>> get themselves worked up by 4chan and Qanon and Fox and Rush. Folks >>> itching for a fight. Folks that never learned how to get along with >>> others. So the sharks and jets had a rumble. Now it is over. >>> >>> But I stand by my metric of counting the magnitude of a riot. People >>> times time + damage caused. Who cares why they were rioting, these things >>> are measurable. Science B*tch. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Carl Peterson >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:35 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>> >>> I shouldn't have used "BS". >>> >>> As others have pointed out, one was a literal attack on the heart of our >>> democracy, encouraged and incited (IMHO) by the president of our country. >>> Not much can come close to that. You could burn all of Portland and it >>> wouldn't come close. Then again I care a lot more about our democracy then >>> I care about Portland. >>> >>> Just say what the rules re OT politics are. We will follow them. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:24 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, >>>> number or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and >>>> compare the two by the numbers. >>>> >>>> Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” >>>> to simple counting of participants times time. >>>> >>>> But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . >>>> >>>> Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. >>>> My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started >>>> far earlier. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Carl Peterson >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>> >>>> Chuck, >>>> >>>> I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The >>>> DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and >>>> Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not >>>> expect it to start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and >>>> dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't >>>> have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but >>>> countering it is not. We either allow political discussions, which I'm >>>> fine with, or we make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best >>>> option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it >>>> up. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to >>>>> remain civil to do so. >>>>> >>>>> The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland >>>>> and Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. >>>>> >>>>> Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. >>>>> >>>>> No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Steve Jones >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>>> >>>>> youre no fun dad >>>>> >>>>> Lent? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a >>>>>> bunch of F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no >>>>>> so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, >>>>>> no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not >>>>>> outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their >>>>>> consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems >>>>>> to be very little that can be done to fix it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly >>>>>>> how I take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is >>>>>>> even more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a >>>>>>> political agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very >>>>>>> few on either side can really provide an objective argument on politics >>>>>>> today. I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just >>>>>>> delete or >>>>>>> not reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. >>>>>>> Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and >>>>>>> Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget >>>>>>> of truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so >>>>>>> thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. >>>>>>> Stop >>>>>>> being a fool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard >>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> an election that is not conducted according to law is not an >>>>>>> election. it's a coup. >>>>>>> Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and >>>>>>> treats every voter the same, it's not an "election". >>>>>>> Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... >>>>>>> that is intolerable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a >>>>>>> commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along >>>>>>> and only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> come warn us -- saw it or believed in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that >>>>>>> the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, >>>>>>> not to >>>>>>> inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to >>>>>>> reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to >>>>>>> repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of >>>>>>> probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil >>>>>>> oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even >>>>>>> destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if >>>>>>> you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is >>>>>>> intended >>>>>>> to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You arrogant asses, you've killed us! >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones < >>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... >>>>>>>>> Kruchev predicted it... Trump enabled it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Go ahead and get off this list >>>>>>>>> Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... >>>>>>>>> This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump >>>>>>>>> said it was going to be wild ... >>>>>>>>> So fuck them to hell. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones < >>>>>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell >>>>>>>>>> it, unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt >>>>>>>>>> demand the >>>>>>>>>> same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes >>>>>>>>>> today and >>>>>>>>>> historically >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WTF...third world country tactics... >>>>>>>>>>> Insurrection... >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Carl Peterson >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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