I pictured wrapping a case in plastic wrap and just using it as a form to mold some foam into the right shape.

.....it's all amusing to think about, but I imagine we'll keep buying precast handholes.


On 6/17/2021 2:17 PM, James Howard wrote:

Haven’t tried it at all but the company website says it’s polyurethane.  I never thought it looked worth trying for posts but thought it might work to pour it around a splice case to make a foam block like Chuck was talking about.  Now that I’m thinking about it though, it wouldn’t just be a pocket but you’d have to cut it off the case if/when you ever needed to get into it since it would be a formed blob.

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman
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@James that stuff is a complete joke, we tried it for a few posts at customer sites and it was entirely a waste of time

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:35 AM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net <mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote:

    What about using something like this?

    
https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/bagged-concrete-cement-mortar/fast-2k-trade-quick-foam-post-anchor-2-9-lb/1894030/p-1526970580634-c-5648.htm?tid=1606715208629456470&ipos=1
    
<https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/concrete-cement-masonry/bagged-concrete-cement-mortar/fast-2k-trade-quick-foam-post-anchor-2-9-lb/1894030/p-1526970580634-c-5648.htm?tid=1606715208629456470&ipos=1>

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
    *Sent:* Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:31 AM
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    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
    *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Handhole / vault recommendation

    I would think carve it with a wire cutter. Polyurethane is pretty
    expensive foam.

    *From:*Adam Moffett

    *Sent:*Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:04 AM

    *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Handhole / vault recommendation

    So do you carve a handhole pocket out of a solid block, or mold
    the styrofoam with a handhole pocket built in?

    I wonder if you could mold your own out of polyurethane foam.

    
https://www.fibreglast.com/product/2lb-Mix-And-Pour-Foam?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5auGBhDEARIsAFyNm9HWb1-WKMvpV4NJobUzWOFaDRUJVW8DnQHnezAOVTeMb29vpJGHUdsaAizlEALw_wcB
    
<https://www.fibreglast.com/product/2lb-Mix-And-Pour-Foam?gclid=Cj0KCQjw5auGBhDEARIsAFyNm9HWb1-WKMvpV4NJobUzWOFaDRUJVW8DnQHnezAOVTeMb29vpJGHUdsaAizlEALw_wcB>

    On 6/16/2021 6:11 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

        Google direct buries most of their splice enclosures with a
        locate ball.

        I am thinking of making a large cube of styrofoam that has a
        pocket for the splice case.

        Direct bury it all with a locate ball.  Need back in, just cut
        the sod and pull out the styrofoam.

        The strength of a block of styrofoam is in the same range of
        firm to stiff soil.

        Lot less money than a handhole.  You could use a hot blade and
        cut it up to get it out if you needed the slack coil.

        *From:*Jason McKemie

        *Sent:*Wednesday, June 16, 2021 12:07 PM

        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

        *Subject:*[AFMUG] Handhole / vault recommendation

        I've been using the Carson / Oldcastle 2200-18 vaults with a
        6" extension, but everything is backordered 30+ weeks.  Does
        anyone have any alternate suggestions for a vault to hold a
        FOSC 450A  splice closure? HDPE would probably be preferable,
        but I could do a concrete polymer if necessary.

        Thanks.

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