This showed up on my news feed this morning. https://www.pcmag.com/news/airtag-vs-tile-which-bluetooth-tracker-should-you-choose
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 16:00 Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > you have to have the human trafficking pack > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> > wrote: > >> Interesting. I never got the history map like this in my tests. >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:40 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >> >> Lulz >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am hoping Paul Dowling will release something that fits my needs. I >>> know he is working on it. >>> >>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 3:08 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>> >>> I would rather pay more upfront and less monthly. $155.40 yearly plus >>> $69.96 $225.35 end of first year. >>> I would like to pay no more than $7.50 per month. >>> >>> *From:* Jason Wilson >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 29, 2021 2:33 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>> >>> I am using this from Optimus. >>> https://www.amazon.com/GPS-Tracker-Optimus-Bundle-Magnet/dp/B01KKVKQ66 >>> >>> Monthly/Yearly plan is a bit much. I have them on my Gator and my >>> trailers. I will be swapping them out for the direct battery connection. >>> >>> https://optimustracker.com/products/gb100m-easy-install-directly-on-cars-battery-gps-tracker?pr_prod_strat=copurchase&pr_rec_pid=6626974564434&pr_ref_pid=6626927542354&pr_seq=uniform >>> >>> I get a notification when they move. Battery lasts about 3 months. You >>> can set up a GeoFence for each unit, so if you are moving equipment around >>> the yard you don't get notifications. >>> >>> All in all I have been very happy with it. >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> Jason Wilson >>> Remotely Located >>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. >>> 530-651-1736 >>> 530-748-9608 Cell >>> www.remotelylocated.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:04 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out, >>>> whereas tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are >>>> the same, the 'coverage' is vastly different >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman < >>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tile is just as good as Air Tag. It's all based on BTLE locatability. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried Tile App? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman >>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM >>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had mine for a couple of years. I'm happy. Keep in mind the >>>>>>> up front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too. At >>>>>>> $0/mo >>>>>>> I'm much happier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended >>>>>>> for a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to >>>>>>> pop >>>>>>> it open and see what you can do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so >>>>>>> long. Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant >>>>>>> monitoring >>>>>>> (which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF < >>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The airtags test was a flop. I put one on my son’s truck without >>>>>>>> him knowing. It would occasionally report a location while on a busy >>>>>>>> street or highway but most of the time no. He does not use an iphone >>>>>>>> so it >>>>>>>> was a good test. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of history >>>>>>>> of the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the >>>>>>>> purpose >>>>>>>> of finding it when it is missing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy. Can you replace the battery? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* TJ Trout >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and several >>>>>>>> other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting. They >>>>>>>> seem >>>>>>>> to work pretty good, dare I say almost as good as a cellular tracker? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:11 AM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For trailers and stuff? I use gpsandfleet.com - it's a $250 one >>>>>>>>> time purchase and works until the battery dies. Do a 1 poll/day >>>>>>>>> cycle and >>>>>>>>> it's 3-5 years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF < >>>>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Recurring payment expense is my main concern. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* can...@believewireless.net >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:46 AM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a cellular/GPS asset tracker coming out in a few months. >>>>>>>>>> Chuck, happy to let you test it out NC. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yep ..sneaky and probably illegal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF < >>>>>>>>>>> af@af.afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So free forwarding just automagically happens? They ride some >>>>>>>>>>>> random persons data plan? >>>>>>>>>>>> I realize it is such a small amount of data but that is a >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty sneaky way of getting a free ride. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 11:47 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the >>>>>>>>>>>> phone’s gps to the tracking service. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth token >>>>>>>>>>>> snagging enough “air time” to report home. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Bouse >>>>>>>>>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi >>>>>>>>>>>> 979-999-7000 >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck >>>>>>>>>>>> McCown via AF >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Air Tags >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Being lazy and not wanting to do the research. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do the air tags work. In other words, how do they get >>>>>>>>>>>> connectivity to the world. Most of the stuff I have read talks >>>>>>>>>>>> about blue >>>>>>>>>>>> tooth but that isnt worth anything over distance. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking of >>>>>>>>>>>> putting them on the equipment. 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