Except airtags piggyback on every ios device that hasn't opted out, whereas
tile is only if you have installed the tile app, so the devices are the
same, the 'coverage' is vastly different

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 12:58 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Tile is just as good as Air Tag.  It's all based on BTLE locatability.
>
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> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:57 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No but reading about it leaves me with little enthusiasm.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Have you tried Tile App?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:54 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If something comes up missing, can you get in and poll it?
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2021 2:49 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>
>>> I've had mine for a couple of years.  I'm happy.  Keep in mind the up
>>> front charge covers all the data for the next few years, too.  At $0/mo I'm
>>> much happier.
>>>
>>> The way the units are built I'm not feeling like they were intended for
>>> a battery replacement but once it's dead there's no reason not to pop it
>>> open and see what you can do.
>>>
>>> It's reporting once a day and that's what makes the battery last so
>>> long.  Once you know there's a problem, you can enable constant monitoring
>>> (which could start anywhere from 1 minute to 24 hours).
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
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>>> Suite 1337
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>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The airtags test was a flop.  I put one on my son’s truck without him
>>>> knowing.  It would occasionally report a location while on a busy street or
>>>> highway but most of the time no.  He does not use an iphone so it was a
>>>> good test.
>>>>
>>>> The lack of reporting in frequently along with the lack of history of
>>>> the locations make them unusable for tracking equipment for the purpose of
>>>> finding it when it is missing.
>>>>
>>>> Interested in the thing Paul Dowling is working on.
>>>>
>>>> gpsandfleet.com is pretty spendy.  Can you replace the battery?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* TJ Trout
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:02 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>
>>>> There's a guy on YouTube who mailed airtags to n Korea and several
>>>> other places just to track them for a video, pretty interesting. They seem
>>>> to work pretty good, dare I say almost as good as a cellular tracker?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 9:11 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For trailers and stuff?  I use gpsandfleet.com - it's a $250 one time
>>>>> purchase and works until the battery dies.  Do a 1 poll/day cycle and it's
>>>>> 3-5 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:53 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Recurring payment expense is my main concern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* can...@believewireless.net
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:46 AM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a cellular/GPS asset tracker coming out in a few months.
>>>>>> Chuck, happy to let you test it out NC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep ..sneaky and probably illegal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So free forwarding just automagically happens?  They ride some
>>>>>>>> random persons data plan?
>>>>>>>> I realize it is such a small amount of data but that is a pretty
>>>>>>>> sneaky way of getting a free ride.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The phones will pickup the Bluetooth beacon and relay the phone’s
>>>>>>>> gps to the tracking service.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Basically a GPS by proxy on behalf of the tracking token.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It relies on random folks wandering by and the Bluetooth token
>>>>>>>> snagging enough “air time” to report home.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim Bouse
>>>>>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>>>>>>> 979-999-7000
>>>>>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>>>>>>> via AF
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 12:45 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Air Tags
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being lazy and not wanting to do the research.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do the air tags work.  In other words, how do they get
>>>>>>>> connectivity to the world.  Most of the stuff I have read talks about 
>>>>>>>> blue
>>>>>>>> tooth but that isnt worth anything over distance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rent out some construction equipment and I am thinking of putting
>>>>>>>> them on the equipment.  But I need a better understanding.
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