I have never been a Mikrotik fan boy...i remember their techs in Dallas-FW American Airlines site during a WISP gathering writing code at their booth. circa 2004 on layover before a trip out to Bolivia.
Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 9:01 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > I have two issues with MT. It has a sketchy track record over the years. > Some models work, others not so well. There was a period in the early days > that there were twentyeleven versions of the software and you had to pick > and choose the version for what you wanted to do. I know that was almost > 20 years ago, but I still see squirrely things posted now and then. > > I don’t want to do a forklift upgrade in a year or two. Just buy > something now that will take me to 5000 customers and be done with it. > > *From:* can...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:24 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router > > I'd HIGHLY recommend starting with Mikrotik. Go with a CCR2004 or the > newer CCR2116. We have two locations where > we upgraded them to V7.1.1 and they are stable even with BGP/OSPF, etc. > Next best option would be a Mikrotik on an X86 > like Baltic. But at that point, might as well go Juniper. > > You can't beat Mikrotik for starting out. It does everything you need and > the price point can't be beat. > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:10 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> I'm using Mikrotik. Get a "cheap" 1036 right now. When you outgrow it, >> replace it with the bigger CCR (1072 is bigger but you need to avoid NAT >> and such for crashes at high throughput). The newer CCR are bigger still >> and even cheaper, but v7 only and hence are super buggy. >> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 5:19 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >> >>> I think you mean transport, transit is internet access/dia/full routes, >>> so you have 3 transit providers feeding a switch and transport back to your >>> hut =) Mikrotik is a decent router but stay away from the 1072, the 1036 is >>> solid but since it's using CPU instead of asic it cannot withstand many >>> ddos attacks >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies < >>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dmmoffett, >>>> >>>> All three of my BGP routers are RouterOS. Two are old x86 from baltic >>>> with the 4 port 10 gig card. One is a CCR1072. At peak I'm pushing about >>>> 12G total across all three. Really haven't push the CCR to the limits yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com >>>> >>>> Myakka Communications >>>> www.Myakka.com >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> >>>> Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 2:33:02 PM, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ….and I still love Mikrotik’s, but the CCR1072 crash/reboot issue was a >>>> big turnoff. >>>> >>>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:32 PM >>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router >>>> >>>> The only thing I’d be careful of is Juniper changed pricing recently, >>>> so don’t trust any price you hear that isn’t from 2022. >>>> >>>> I’m really loving Arista these days. An Arista L3 switch would >>>> probably do everything you’d want. They do have routers too of course, but >>>> switches are cheap enough to keep a spare. Arista’s command syntax is >>>> identical to Cisco, so there’s that too. >>>> >>>> -Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:27 PM >>>> *To:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router >>>> >>>> Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front >>>> loaded investment with a great roi in headaches saved >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another >>>> company that has some Cisco big iron there. >>>> It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such >>>> that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now. >>>> >>>> *From:* TJ Trout >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM >>>> *To:* Chuck McCown >>>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: Dual DIA router >>>> >>>> What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a >>>> switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 >>>> is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+ >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router. Or used >>>> router. Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper. I >>>> don’t have a ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 >>>> in the next 2-3 years. >>>> What would be a good value there? I really don’t want a $25K router >>>> right now. >>>> >>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM >>>> *To:* TJ Trout >>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing >>>> >>>> Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment... The problem is >>>> having the two backhaul circuits. Maybe I could vlan them. >>>> No harm in quoting HE. Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah? >>>> >>>> *From:* TJ Trout >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM >>>> *To:* Chuck McCown >>>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing >>>> >>>> I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> $950 10G flat. $30 for bgp. >>>> >>>> *From:* TJ Trout >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing >>>> >>>> Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it. >>>> >>>> Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT >>>> locations with few customers might be an extra $500. >>>> >>>> Telia is a very good option but won't be quite as inexpensive as Cogent >>>> or HE, but they have really good routes and the full internet. >>>> >>>> I can be your advocate on these types of orders, one email and I'll >>>> aggregate the quotes and send them back to you, carriers pay me 10% or so >>>> out of their side of the deal, you still pay the same. >>>> >>>> TJ >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 9:36 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shopping for DIA again. Asking Cogent to freshen up a quote. A couple >>>> of years ago they quoted a special 10G flat for $1200/month. 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