Sent a request to HE for a quote.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 9:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Cogent doesn't participate in IXes at all, which is indeed a problem. 

HE is better than Cogent in many ways, but Cogent is still bigger.

https://asrank.caida.org/




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From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:24:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing


HE has a better network and support than Cogent. If you can only start with one 
of the two, I'd go with HE first. 

We love their network, sales, and support. If you're picking it up in Salt 
Lake, they have 5 paths out vs. Cogent's 3 paths.

You'll find HE performs better latency wise with better path.

Please take a look at both of their network maps and you'll see how HE is more 
dense with more POP's, and more paths. They also peer with everyone at as many 
IX's as possible where Cogent does not which can lead to congested ports.
http://he.net/HurricaneElectricNetworkMap.pdf

https://www.cogentco.com/en/network/network-map


HE is the real winner for performance and cost.

https://bgp.he.net/report/exchanges#_participants

On IX participation, Cogent isn't even on the TOP list at all and HE is #1 for 
number of IX's they're on.

https://bgp.he.net/report/peers

HE also has more BGP peers than any other network in the world. #1 here too. #2 
is Cogent.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:26 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

  It's usually cheaper in my recent experience but not by a whole lot. He will 
probably pay a bit more than a single 10g to get 2x2g

  On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:22 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

    On 1/18/22 11:13 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    > I am warming up to the idea of having two providers.  2Gig burstable on 
    > each.

    Every time I've asked about burstable in recent memoty the price is 
    higher than a fixed rate port, if offered at all.

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