Screwdriver and a color chart...

From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 8:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

The manufacturers supply a ‘programmer box’ that usually have a USB connector, 
a SFP slot, and some software to reprogram the SFP’s.   The software usually 
lets you set how the SFP identifies itself to the switch / router so that you 
can work around the asinine vendors that insist on locking to vendor specific 
optics, and to set the frequency on the tunable optics.     

https://www.flexoptix.net/en/flexbox.html?395=1357&co9424= for example.   They 
will send one for free if you order optics from them.

Mark



  On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  How do you tune the tunable optics?  Is it done in the config of the router, 
or do you tune it before installing somehow?
   
  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
  Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber
   
  We spare with tunable optics.   Production is channel specific but spares are 
tunable to the frequency.   Price is usually 4x the fixed optics, but as you 
noted, having to spare every channel gets pricy.
   
  Mark



    On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:57 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
     
    My recollection is the DWDM optics are slightly cheaper, but the CWDM muxes 
are cheaper.  I think if you fully populate the CWDM MUX then the cost was a 
wash and it didn’t matter which one you bought.  If you are only ever going to 
use a few channels then CWDM is noticeably cheaper.
     
    The biggest hassle IMO is inventory and spares.  If you’re using 10 
different color optics then you need 10 different spares on the shelf.   If you 
use 40 colors that cost $400 each then you need $16,000 in spare optics.  
That’s not even a bad scenario.  Some of the more exotic optics are $2300 from 
Fiber Store.   I have a quote in hand for 80km 100G Arista branded optics from 
another vendor for over $6000.  If you’re using multiple colors of those then 
you may find yourself with a whole lotta capital tied up in spare parts.
     
     
     
     
    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
    Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:43 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber
     
    We are leasing a few new strands of dark to a couple locations.  On our 
other paths we have just Done BiDi for our ring or payload and used another for 
our routed/management network.  For these strands, I'm thinking of doing 
passive WDM.  
     
    Any benefit to DWDM vs CWDM if you aren't expecting to scale it?  Why would 
you use two strands vs one strand?  We generally use one strand for everything, 
either BiDi or GPON so my brain just sort of assumes that.  What am I missing?  

     
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