We had some issue with FS 10Gig BiDi optics and try to stick to Flex Optics
for that unless its on a ring / has a backup

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:45 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> I've heard good things about Flex Optix.
>
> I've been doing FS myself (cheaper).  I've had no issues so far.
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:40 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> The manufacturers supply a ‘programmer box’ that usually have a USB
>> connector, a SFP slot, and some software to reprogram the SFP’s.   The
>> software usually lets you set how the SFP identifies itself to the switch /
>> router so that you can work around the asinine vendors that insist on
>> locking to vendor specific optics, and to set the frequency on the tunable
>> optics.
>>
>> https://www.flexoptix.net/en/flexbox.html?395=1357&co9424= for example.
>>   They will send one for free if you order optics from them.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> How do you tune the tunable optics?  Is it done in the config of the
>> router, or do you tune it before installing somehow?
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 9:33 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber
>>
>> We spare with tunable optics.   Production is channel specific but spares
>> are tunable to the frequency.   Price is usually 4x the fixed optics, but
>> as you noted, having to spare every channel gets pricy.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 7:57 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> My recollection is the DWDM optics are slightly cheaper, but the CWDM
>> muxes are cheaper.  I think if you fully populate the CWDM MUX then the
>> cost was a wash and it didn’t matter which one you bought.  If you are only
>> ever going to use a few channels then CWDM is noticeably cheaper.
>>
>> The biggest hassle IMO is inventory and spares.  If you’re using 10
>> different color optics then you need 10 different spares on the shelf.   If
>> you use 40 colors that cost $400 each then you need $16,000 in spare
>> optics.  That’s not even a bad scenario.  Some of the more exotic optics
>> are $2300 from Fiber Store.   I have a quote in hand for 80km 100G Arista
>> branded optics from another vendor for over $6000.  If you’re using
>> multiple colors of those then you may find yourself with a whole lotta
>> capital tied up in spare parts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:43 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber
>>
>> We are leasing a few new strands of dark to a couple locations.  On our
>> other paths we have just Done BiDi for our ring or payload and used another
>> for our routed/management network.  For these strands, I'm thinking of
>> doing passive WDM.
>>
>> Any benefit to DWDM vs CWDM if you aren't expecting to scale it?  Why
>> would you use two strands vs one strand?  We generally use one strand for
>> everything, either BiDi or GPON so my brain just sort of assumes that.
>> What am I missing?
>>
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