Calling out people does work but only if you have established relationships and it is a relationship that both wish to keep going. It can help humanize the problem and help the other person see the harm.
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:54 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone could use > some more grit. > > In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never > affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves in the > trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to > shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down. > > What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he > is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor. And I try to > teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if they are my > employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I fire > them. > > Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a noble > cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially > impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist. Look at > antifa and proud boys. > > Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same > reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying > to advance. > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political > > You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck. > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All >> ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse >> and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are >> always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them >> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything. >> >> >> >> …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to pass >> judgement. >> >> >> >> On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels >> fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in Utah feel like >> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political >> >> >> >> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy. >> >> >> >> That is how I would describe some of my kids. >> >> >> >> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness. >> >> >> >> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners >> just to be able to still see some of my kids. >> >> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a lifetime >> sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at their whims >> just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half hour walk in >> the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner. >> >> >> >> Odd times.... >> >> I loved my parents and grandparents. >> >> Never felt they had to earn it. >> >> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said. >> >> >> >> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our families were >> separate all while the kids were growing. >> >> But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the exact same >> vernacular. >> >> >> >> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think. >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Zach Underwood (RHCE,RHCSA,RHCT,UACA) My website <http://zachunderwood.me> advance-networking.com
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