What if you don't have towers? ;-)
One of my hats is fiber and DSL. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Crum" <cc...@murcevilo.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 4:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC We have a solution for filing with PE certification at www.regulatorysolutions.us if you need assistance. Cameron On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: Not a new version but a whole new other report in addition to 477 I think. Sent from my iPhone <blockquote> On Jul 21, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: <blockquote> I haven't been reading up on this, is this the new form 477 replacement with increased requirements? On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> “Internet access”. If I am strictly a layer 2 pipe providing transport - only then I am not a provider of internet. If someone coincidentally connects it to layer 3 things... well then that is outside of my control. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 1:41 PM To: Chuck McCown Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC >Facilities-based providers of fixed and mobile broadband internet access who >have one or more end user connections in service on June 30, 2022 On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 3:35 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote: <blockquote> But what types of business does it apply to? I am sure that I can find a loophole. Like I deliver virtual ice cream via ethernet so it should not apply to me. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 12:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC Ethernet/GPON doesn't matter. It's copper versus optical delivery. :) On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service provider with free access to the internet thrown in... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC WISPA is absolutely fighting this. We absolutely did not want this. There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did get some wins. On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:12 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> I'm sure wispa is out there looking out for us That is sarcasm Wispa isnt what itwas when it lived in this neighborhood I feel we all need to watch brokeback mountain to prepare what's coming On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Perhaps. I am sure there will be things filed about this. From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 4:46 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: RE: [AFMUG] BDC Keep in mind that is a temp fix and only good for the next 18 months. Then the full PE cert is required. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto: af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] BDC Starting to look into what I have to do. Just read the certification requirements. This is the language of the alternate, non PE, non degreed engineer certifier: (ii) specialized training relevant to broadband network engineering and design, deployment, and/or performance, and at least ten years of relevant experience in broadband network engineering, design, and/or performance. I am guessing everyone on this list fits this set of qualifications. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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